Dean Windass

[Northern]

Is it just me or is anybody else getting fed up with his antics?

I really can't stand Windass, I think he's an arrogant prick who thinks he's so much better than he actually is. Wahoo, he scored yesterday, but imo the credit should go to Bridgey for the superb assist.

His idiotic sending off against Bournemouth led to alot of criticism, which Windass didn't believe he deserved. What is the guy on? It was one of the worst tackles I've ever seen, there was no need for it and he could've easily ended the lads career, he deserved all the criticism he got.

Then comes the story about the 'hate mail.' Yeah I do believe that he could've got some hate mail, but death threats? Bollocks, his wife is a copper and yet he didn't show it to her, instead he ripped them straight up?

Then we come to yesterday! I sit in the YFS stand, during the game a guy in this stand said something along the lines of "ffs city, wake up and watch for the early ball" as another long ball went over the front line. Windass turned to this guy and mouthed "******" then "Knobhead" to this fan. Then apparently he told a guy in the Sunwin stand to f*ck off!

So then he scored and what did Windass do, he ran over to the bloke in the YFS Stand and did the sign for f*ck off with his arms! :rolleyes:

There was a debate the other day about if Windass was a legend, he's far from it in my opinion and he never will be. A legend shows respect for the club and is usually a model professional, Dean Windass is niether of these. He's an ok player who can score, but he's showed time and time again that he does not respect this club or it's fans. The goal he scored when playing for Sheff Utd is another example!

I don't usually criticise players but Windass is pissing me off. :mad:

[Parrot]

I know how you feel NB, but sadly we need Deano more than he needs us IMOtdwn: ....Without him Turds job would be completed & we'd be relegated:(

[Macca Ha Ha Ha]

I have to say that i applauded his goal yesterday but with no smile or great delight - I'm pleased we won but his antics yesterday are another indicator as to what is wrong at VP.

[Herr Doktor]

I know how you feel NB, but sadly we need Deano more than he needs us IMOtdwn: ....Without him Turds job would be completed & we'd be relegated:(

But wouldn't that mean that Todd would have to look at alternative strikers? Who knows, he might even play some of the youngsters which could end up with a few different results.

1) The youngsters come in but aren't up to it. Having given the top table what they want, would it still be Todds fault when we are relegated and the club goes out of business?

2) They come in and are up to it, we go on an amazing run and win promotion thus ensuring Todd stays in the job until the end of his contract.

[Jantje]

2) They come in and are up to it, we go on an amazing run and win promotion thus ensuring Todd stays in the job until the end of his contract.

They came in last year & saved his bollox, when he had to use them Brown , Colbeck, Bentham, Penford & even Swift to an extent made decent contributions to a season that was heading downhill fast.

The enthusiasm showed by these lads lifted the crowd and spurred the team on from the Blackpool home game onwards.

Only Bentham seems to have Todds trust but even after a more than dedent effort yesterday after his long absence i bet he's dropped for Schuey next week.

[Parrot]

But wouldn't that mean that Todd would have to look at alternative strikers? Who knows, he might even play some of the youngsters which could end up with a few different results.

1) The youngsters come in but aren't up to it. Having given the top table what they want, would it still be Todds fault when we are relegated and the club goes out of business?

2) They come in and are up to it, we go on an amazing run and win promotion thus ensuring Todd stays in the job until the end of his contract.

We'll never know for sure Doc cos neither scenarios gonna happen....What grates me about Turds treatment of our youngsters is his hypocrisytdwn: .....He persists with young loanees from other clubs for a few games, usually they then bed in & settle down....but our youngsters are 1 bad performance from been ditched back in the stiffs never to be seen againtdwn: .....I mean, whats happened to Ainge?:confused:

[Jantje]

Dutch keeps going on about Luke O'Brien, the City reserve LB who has won youth player of the year 2 years on the trot. Ben Parker is only a couple of months older than him with no more experience, why didn't Todd give O'Brien a run out in the pre-season games to see if he was up to it.

Nothing against Parker by the way , i think he's improved as the season has gone on but it a point that Todd just doesn't seem to have much faith in the youth even though the other coaching staff have all said the are a good bunch with potentially better ones coming through.

[lee]

He wants dropping and kicking into touch a bit... I don't think he would go, I honestly can't see any other club paying his price tag, I know there's been supposed offers from Wigan but I reckon even that's a crock of poo.

Trouble is Toddy hates City fans more than Windass so will never drop him for swearing at the fans, and whilst he's the only one scoring for us then I think he will always be the first name on the team sheet.

It's the situation we're in, the fans are looking for scapegoats on the field and Windass is the obvious target. It's unfortunate but he was booed at the start of the game and his ego is obviously massive so he's bound to respond in a 'passionate' manner when he does something right. If it simmers down a bit (i.e. we start winning or we sack Todd) then fans/player will be superficially harmonising again.

[Parrot]

They came in last year & saved his bollox, when he had to use them Brown , Colbeck, Bentham, Penford & even Swift to an extent made decent contributions to a season that was heading downhill fast.

The enthusiasm showed by these lads lifted the crowd and spurred the team on from the Blackpool home game onwards.

Only Bentham seems to have Todds trust but even after a more than dedent effort yesterday after his long absence i bet he's dropped for Schuey next week.

Spot on there JS tup:

The Turds too dumb or stubborn to realise the above thoughtdwn: Youthful enthusiasm & pride in our club saved us from a nailbiting end to the campaign, looking over our shoulders so to speak! ....Colbeck was a revelation last season in most the games but now he's gone backwards, i blame Turds treatment of his fragile confidence for that, maybe if a decent manager had persisted in him then we'd have a good player on our hands now?

[Herr Doktor]

We'll never know for sure Doc cos neither scenarios gonna happen....What grates me about Turds treatment of our youngsters is his hypocrisytdwn: .....He persists with young loanees from other clubs for a few games, usually they then bed in & settle down....but our youngsters are 1 bad performance from been ditched back in the stiffs never to be seen againtdwn: .....I mean, whats happened to Ainge?:confused:

You're right it does seem exceptionally hypocritical but I'm sure he has his reasons. Whether they are valid reasons, I haven't a clue.

With regards to Ainge, I haven't seen much of him but what I have seen was impressive. He's got a big future, hopefully at City, but to get him in at centre-half you'd have to drop either Wetherall or Bower and doing that would break up a decent partnership.

[Parrot]

You're right it does seem exceptionally hypocritical but I'm sure he has his reasons. Whether they are valid reasons, I haven't a clue.

With regards to Ainge, I haven't seen much of him but what I have seen was impressive. He's got a big future, hopefully at City, but to get him in at centre-half you'd have to drop either Wetherall or Bower and doing that would break up a decent partnership.

Im not saying Ainge should replace the Bower/Wethers partnership but why as Ainge been discarded?...Surely his performances merited a place on the bench?....Instead he's bombed out, God knows what effect this as on a youngsters brittle confidence?tdwn:

[Macca Ha Ha Ha]

have no fear Todd says he knows what he's doing and how to ttreat players..
......................pass the Rennies please.

[Yeadon Bantam]

Next game we lose the whole team should be dropped and we should play (bar wethers, bower and doyle) a whole team of kids! At least we will see 100% effort and fight!

[rnbcfc]

there is no excuse for what windass did to the fans on saturday. the vast majority were there to support the team and him. he is an experience professional footballer. it is no coincidence that he is the most hated footballer in our division (listen to the oppositions fans). he bites players, grabs them by the testicles, swears at fans and referees in car parks. he needs to concentrate on doing what he is good at, SCORING GOALS otherwise he will drag our club into the gutter.

[BantamMenace]

Spot on there JS tup:

The Turds too dumb or stubborn to realise the above thoughtdwn: Youthful enthusiasm & pride in our club saved us from a nailbiting end to the campaign, looking over our shoulders so to speak! ....Colbeck was a revelation last season in most the games but now he's gone backwards, i blame Turds treatment of his fragile confidence for that, maybe if a decent manager had persisted in him then we'd have a good player on our hands now?

Who would you rather have on the pitch? JJ or Colbeck? Cant blame todd for the fact that he has brought in a much better and exciting player in his position.

[Jantje]

Your right BM but Todd seems to show no encouragement to the younger players until like last season he has no choice but to use them. Why not use them on the bech instead of wasting a loan signing like Healy.

How are they supposed to get experience or see if they are good enough. On Saturday i thought Craig Bentham had a good game , his workrate enabled MBW to have more freedom to get forward & use his passing game but i bet he is dropped on Saturday when Schuey is back.

[BantamMenace]

Yeah agreed I thought Bentham was good 2 need to keep him in there, good to have muirhead back too, we look pretty gud with JJ and ben down the wings altho Ben needs to work on his finishing. I think todd maybe thought that a loan signing of someone like Healy could have been the player that we needed to get us out of the rut, but all signings dont work out, he could have been amazing for us but it wasnt to be. Maybe if he see's Bentham playing like he did on saturday he mite start to get the younger one's in, its hard for Todd i think to judge when to put the young one's in, cos he may be thinkin we need experience to get us out of a bad run and the young one's could buckle under the pressure which they havnt experienced b4. I still think we will be in with a shout of the play offs tho come april, think todd will turn it round. With regards to deano, didnt think he wud do stuff like ppl have said but then again I dont know him but its dissapointing cos u wouldnt see that from wethers or bower. Think he cud well be on his way come january.

[Johnny Yen]

From the Yorkshire Sport ( Sunday publication), regarding the hate
mail and some fans in general,Dean Windass in a interview with Nick
Wood said.

" It makes me have second thoughts about my future here, you try
doing your best for the club and yourself but people have short
memories.
I just can't understand why (the fans)they want to slag me off week
in week out."

"I got a few naughty letters and it hasn't been good but you just
have to get on with it"

"Supporters have got to realise that in the last three seasons if it
hadn't been for my goals they probably wouldn't have been in this
division"

"Fans have to be thankful that there is a football club,and they have
to remember that every player at this club has taken wage deferrals
to keep this club alive."

"A minority of supporters wants to consistently have a go at
players,managers and chairmen when they should be grateful that
there's a football club here"

"If it hadn't been for Julian Rhodes and the players taking deferrals
the club wouldn't exist. It annoys me that people have such short
memories"

" I could have jumped ship and gone to Wigan for four or five times
more than I'm earning here, but I tried to be loyal to the football
club and tried to pull my weight."

"I think one of the messages I received said that I was lazy. Well,
stats would tell you that in the pro zone I cover as many miles as
anyone on the pitch "

It looks to me as if Deano is still smarting from the hate mail he
received, of course I don't blame him, a death threat for getting sent off and scoring 20+ goals the past few seasons to help keep the club up would piss me off no end either. He may have vented his frustration to a fan on Saturday, it's the way Windass works, it's his nature, all are differernt. Deano will never be a legend here, and he really has frustrated me in the past by needless suspensions, however he is and has been a damn good player for us. He showed no sign of his feelings on the pitch Saturday, he was quite impressive in my eyes and capped off a hard working performance with a good goal, that was also having to carry hapless striking partners in E Johnson and Graham. That suggests great professionalism to me.

[Macca Ha Ha Ha]

I'd rather have seen Joe Colbeck getting some proper man management than seeing the likes of JJ sulking and going AWOL during matches - gets away with it of course as he's one of the favourd few.
If i were manager he'd be spoken to and told what he had to do when playing and if he did not like it then to move on - obviously Bolton and Oldham saw through him.
Bentham will get dropped next match for Schuey depsiet not doing anything wrong on Saturday - it should be the returning suspended player sitting on the sidelines if their stand in gave a decent performance.

[Johnny Yen]

Bentham will get dropped next match for Schuey despite not doing anything wrong on Saturday - it should be the returning suspended player sitting on the sidelines if their stand in gave a decent performance.

I'll be very surprised if Bentham keeps his place at the expence of Schuy.
However, Bentham played very well on Saturday, I was very impressed with his tackling, he's quite an tenacious fellow. In the first half by the corner where the Kop meets the Sunwin stand he put in two successional challenges stopping two crosses into the box. Then seconds later a ball hit the inside of his leg and canonned off to the opposition, he wasn't at fault. However a prick behind me got straight on his case. I despair, how the hell we're meant to get the young lads some confidence when there's 'supporters ' at the game just itching to get on players backs.

[Loyalish2]

Johnny, while in the main I can't argue with what you say. Don't you think, "It makes me have second thoughts about my future here, you try doing your best for the club and yourself but people have short
memories. I just can't understand why (the fans)they want to slag me off weekin week out." Is a bit over the top? I mean, Deano's been hero worshipped ever since he's been at the club, he still is! The fact he gets away with things other players don't(always been my gripe), and has done for years is proof of that. In all my years of going to City I can't think of a single fan that's consistantly slagged him off and not been willing to forgive any of his sins. So quite why he feels the need to say all that stuff is baffling. I don't know the bloke personally, but he doesn't strike me as the type of chap that's going to get upset after receiving a nasty letter from some halfwit City fan.

If you're a Deano fan I'd be worried, because the conspiracy theory in me suggests he's seeking or already arranged pastures new and on the lookout to ease the pain. So unless CT is already aware of the situation and making plans, given our current situation he'll be a big loss. (There, I've said it!!! ;) )

At the end of the day I might be talking bolliox, but what is any fan supposed to think when the teams star man, a player hero worshipped and adored by ninety nine out of a hundred City fans, starts questioning his long term future at the club because of a few poxy letters, half a dozen posts on t'internet, and the odd random shout from the terraces???

Btw, just how long is that January transfer window open???

[Parrot]

Two players Instigating a move in the transfer window;

Deano...."I've received hate mail but destroyed the letters immediately!"

Reo Coker..."I've received racist hate mail, showed them to Anton Ferdinand then destroyed them!"

Beats handing in a transfer request i suppose!:rolleyes: tdwn:

[harrogatebantam31]

For me Windass always has been and always will be a prize pratt.

He is controlled by his ego and the constant hero worship by certain sections of the City faithfull have only fuelled this.

For the first time I can ever remember (other than when we've scored a consolation goal) I felt completely hollow when City scored on Saturday.

Windass clever look and reaction were what I expected and rather than cheer him on Saturday I just wanted wanted to punch him in the face.

Death threats (if there were any!!) I don't agree with, but I'm afraid Mr Windass has played the fool one too many times for the majority of City fans and it will take more than scoring one goal against a mediocre team to win them round.

Also, has Windass forgotten the role the fans played in keeping the football club alive.

WE are Bradford City FC, not the Chairman or players. Without the fans the club wouldn't exist.

[beerbantam]

Im not saying Ainge should replace the Bower/Wethers partnership but why as Ainge been discarded?...Surely his performances merited a place on the bench?....Instead he's bombed out, God knows what effect this as on a youngsters brittle confidence?tdwn:

Yep Ainge discarded again! wtf is going on?