View Full Version : What do we need? - the basics of staying up!
beerbantam
23rd April 2007, 11:34 AM
We all know that we are reliant on others misfortune & a lift in our own fortune to stay up!
So here's what we need happen;
Chesterfield v City - Away win
City v Milwall - home win.
The above is critical - faillure to get them too results and we are down!!
Meanwhile its anyone of three teams from which we need a monumental ****-up! The following are in order of which i think are most likely to 'do us a favour'!!jump:
Leyton Orient!
LO v Forest - Away win
Tb's v LO - Home win
Although they 'did us' on Saturday, id expect Forest to stuff them and Ritchie wont want his new team to go down at home to Orient on the last game of the season!!
or
Bournemouth
Bournmouth v Gills- A
PVale V Bournmouth - H
or
Cheltenham
RothrumvCheltenham-H
Cheltenham v Brighton - A
Brighton could also be the 'ones' to help us out but goal difference could prove a problem!!
Lets all keep our fingers crossed as 'it could happen!' A big win away on Saturday will keep the optimism going!!jump: jump: jump:
Rick
23rd April 2007, 11:39 AM
Do you still believe in Santa Claus?
beerbantam
23rd April 2007, 03:42 PM
T&A's version is much better than mine!!
Two Cheltenham draws, two City wins and David Wetherall's men stay up on goal difference. Or two losses for Bournemouth, Leyton Orient or Brighton For the battle to even stretch as far as the final afternoon, City must triumph at Saltergate next weekend and keep their fingers crossed that at least one of the following also happens: Cheltenham don't beat Rotherham; Bournemouth or Leyton Orient also fail to win; Brighton lose to Oldham.
Only then can thoughts turn to pulling off a real mission impossible on May 5. It's the smallest of straws but the one the club will cling to after the woes of losing to the O's.
For those looking at the dregs left in City's glass as a quarter full rather than three-quarters empty, here's an outline of what could happen before last orders are called in the last-chance saloon.
BRIGHTON
Current position: 17th on 52 points
Form (last six games): D W L L L L
Games to go: Oldham (H), Cheltenham (A)
What they say: "It's no consolation that the teams below us lost. I'm disappointed and angered that we are even talking in those terms" - manager Dean Wilkins.
Verdict: The wheels have come off at just the wrong time for Albion. Those who made the trip to the Withdean with City will know that their home form is shocking, so Oldham could give everyone down the bottom end a helping hand with three points on Saturday. But Brighton's goal difference is currently seven better than City, which should save them regardless.
LEYTON ORIENT
Current position: 18th on 51 points
Form (last six games): D L L L D W
Games to go: Nottingham Forest (H), Huddersfield (A)
What they say: "Beating Bradford puts us in a strong position but I won't be happy until it's certain we can't be caught. We're not quite there yet" - manager Martin Ling.
Verdict: The O's fans celebrated like they had won the World Cup after beating City but manager Martin Ling was preaching caution and, with the Forest still to play, that is understandable. But even if results go to plan next weekend, City will still need a favour from the side hosting Orient on the final day - good old neighbours Huddersfield.
BOURNEMOUTH
Current position: 19th on 51 points
Form (last six games): W W D L D L
Games to go: Gillingham (H), Port Vale (A)
What they say: "I'm absolutely convinced we will be playing in League One next season but we need to be 100 per cent sure to be able to budget effectively" - chairman Neil Mostyn.
Verdict: The Cherries thought they had done the job but are stumbling over the finish line since Spencer Weir-Daley's equaliser in stoppage time on Easter Saturday. Next opponents Gillingham have not travelled well all season but have hit form at just the wrong time as far as Bournemouth are concerned.
CHELTENHAM
Current position: 20th on 50 points
Form (last six games): L W W D W L
Games to go: Rotherham (A), Brighton (H)
What they say: "We are still four points better off than Bradford and when the players and supporters see that they will take some comfort from it. We have to try and get the job done at Rotherham" - manager John Ward.
Verdict: The Robins boast the best form of the relegation scrappers, even though they lost to Blackpool last time out. Ten points from the previous 12 available have boosted confidence but City will be praying that Rotherham try to go out on a high by winning their last home game in League One.
CITY
Current position: 21st on 46 points
Form (last six games): L L D D W L
Games to go: Chesterfield (A), Millwall (H)
What they say: "Saturday's defeat was extremely damaging and everyone in the dressing room felt very down. But we will not be giving up" - caretaker manager David Wetherall.
Verdict: City will have nightmares over the catalogue of missed chances in that first half on Saturday. Three more points and the picture would look very different now. They still have it all to do - and then some - with victories in the final two matches absolutely essential to have a sniff of a chance of escaping.
CHESTERFIELD
Current position: 22nd on 44 points
Form (last six games): D L W D L L
Games to go: City (H), Oldham (A)
What they say: "There are lots of factors why we are in this position and I know I can affect some of them. I would like the chance to do so" - caretaker manager Lee Richardson.
Verdict: Like City, Chesterfield must win both but they also need Cheltenham to slip up twice. They are the only side above the line that the Spireites can catch. A draw at Saltergate next week as well as a Cheltenham point and both teams will be contemplating life in the basement come August.
Rick
23rd April 2007, 03:45 PM
My version is betters still
City have to gain at a minimum of 4 points from their last two games to have any chance of staying up.
It ain't going to happen.
beerbantam
23rd April 2007, 03:51 PM
My version is betters still
City have to gain at a minimum of 4 points from their last two games to have any chance of staying up.
It ain't going to happen.
Fookin' hell, arnt you the cheerie optimistic twat!:eek: :rolleyes:
lee
23rd April 2007, 03:54 PM
Edit:
Fookin' hell, arnt you the cheerie optimistic correct twat!:eek: :rolleyes:
:p
bg
23rd April 2007, 04:18 PM
ok, I know it was dissapointing on Saturday to say the lease, but with so many conundrums and permutations anything is possible. I am also a believer in postive thinking, constantly saying we are going down and it can't be done will not help. What have we got to lose by being positive?? This our team and we have to go through the pain barrier with them, not stand slagging them off.....:rolleyes:
lee
23rd April 2007, 04:21 PM
I'm just kidding bg, I live in hope until it's mathematically impossible.
Rick
23rd April 2007, 04:23 PM
I'm a realist.
I realistically can't see us picking up the point needed.
Parrot
23rd April 2007, 04:58 PM
The basics of staying up are that we need more points or better goal difference than the fourth bottom team......still achievable at this moment in time tup:
Not rocket science, is it?:rolleyes: :jd:
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