Looking at the Table

[Wicker Man]

If we win both Games we can survive, with high probabilities!!

17 Brighton 44 -8 52
18 Leyton Orient 44 -12 51
19 Bournemouth 44 -13 51
20 Cheltenham 44 -14 50
21 Bradford 44 -15 46
22 Chesterfield 44 -10 44

There are 4 Teams above us who are catchable Cheltenham, Bournmouth, Leyton Orient and Brighton

These are 4 Teams at the foot of the table who are there for a reason - there crap

Ask yourself...whats the probability that 1 of these 4 teams loses their remaning two games? You would say it would be quite high, geven where they are and why.

Taking a closer look at each teams fixtures:

Brighton:
28th April, At Home Vs Oldham. Oldham 6th in table, in poor form, but a quality side you can see demoloshing Brighton
5th May, Away Vs Cheltenham. Could be a Pivitol game for us and both of thse teams, hard to say the result.
Did i mention Brighton are on a 4 game losing streak?

Leyton Orient
28th April, At Home Vs Notts Forest. Forest 3rd in table, NEED to win to stand chance of auto's, cant see Orient taking anything out of this
5th May, Away Vs Hudders. Hudders with new manager and a few good results behind them, they could really do us a favour here.

Bournmouth
28th April, At Home Vs Gillingham. This is 'easier' than all other fixtures thus far. Given their current instability however, anything could happen.
5th May, Away Vs Port Vale. Again could be classed as a 'easy' game, Vale have nowt to play for, then again home advantage and the sheer unpredictability of this league

Cheltenham
28th April, Away Vs Rotherham. Apparenteley the 'easiest' fixture, Rothers only have pride to play for. Dont count them out however, a good side as they have shown us 2 times this season
5th May, Home Vs Brighton. Again i must reitterate the potential importance of thes fixture

Bradford City
28th April, Away Vs Chesterfield. Chesterfield as good as down, We're good on the road and it truley is a 'must win' game - therefore we will
5th May, Home Vs Milwall, Shite home record, although Milwall nothing to play for - and we always pull it out of the bag on the final day when it matters

So imagine the table next saturday 5 Pm, if fixures go our way
Brighton Lose to Oldham
Orient Lose to Forest
Bournmouth Lose to Gillingham
Cheltenham Lose to Rotherham

17 Brighton 45 -8 52
18 Leyton Orient 45 -12 51
19 Bournemouth 45 -13 51
20 Cheltenham 45 -14 50
21 Bradford 45 -15 49
22 Chesterfield 45 -10 44

Yes the probability of all 4 losing and us winning, is low admittedly. But look how close it brings us into it.

Look at it if each team loses and others win then

Brighton Lose

18 Leyton Orient 44 -12 54
19 Bournemouth 44 -13 54
17 Brighton 44 -8 52
20 Cheltenham 44 -14 53
21 Bradford 44 -15 49
22 Chesterfield 44 -10 44

Here we would need definately to win to stay up, and Brighton to lose to Cheltenham (Highley plausable seen as brighton will be shitting it) However, this is where goal differnce would come in. At the moment we have an inferior record. Brighton would have to lose by at least either 2 or 3 goals in each mach. This is given a city win of just 1 nill, say we win both games 2 nill that means Brighton only have to lose 1 nill in either, and we're staying up.

Orient Lose

17 Brighton 45 -8 55
19 Bournemouth 45 -13 54
20 Cheltenham 45 -14 53
18 Leyton Orient 45 -12 51
21 Bradford 45 -15 49
22 Chesterfield 45 -10 44

This again would require them to lose on the last day, against hudders, again likely. This time we woudl go up on goal difference (given we must win by at least 1 clear goal giving us -13 and they must lose by at least one clear goal giving them -14)

Cheltenham Lose

17 Brighton 45 -8 55
18 Leyton Orient 45 -12 54
19 Bournemouth 45 -13 54
20 Cheltenham 45 -14 50
21 Bradford 45 -15 49
22 Chesterfield 45 -10 44

There goal difference will go down to -15. This means a win or a draw for city could see us up, either on goal difference or by 2 clear points, They have Brighton, again a pivitol game, but one you can see them losing, especially of the back to Brighton winning Oldham.

Basically this shows us it is imperative WE WIN BOTH GAMES

Becuase it is entirely possible we will stay up!

FAO The Doubters - would the human race of got as far as it has, with people giving up when the odds were stacked against them? No

Have a little faith, pass it on to the players and with any luck WE ARE STAYING UP

[BBB]

If we win both games ????


:jimmy: :jimmy: jump: jump: roflmao: roflmao: clap: :sorry:

[claretandamberpigeon87]

We sealed our fate when we fell asleep for the majority of the second half on Saturday.
The above post bases everything on the unpredictable nature of this league, which, true it is, but you can't rely on that to see us through. At least some of Saturday's predictions must be based on form and league position.
We were condemned to league 2 the moment that first goal went in on Saturday, and come Saturday we will be mathematically screwed.

[Rambo]

If we win both Games we can survive, with high probabilities!!

17 Brighton 44 -8 52
18 Leyton Orient 44 -12 51
19 Bournemouth 44 -13 51
20 Cheltenham 44 -14 50
21 Bradford 44 -15 46
22 Chesterfield 44 -10 44

There are 4 Teams above us who are catchable Cheltenham, Bournmouth, Leyton Orient and Brighton

These are 4 Teams at the foot of the table who are there for a reason - there crap

Ask yourself...whats the probability that 1 of these 4 teams loses their remaning two games? You would say it would be quite high, geven where they are and why.

Taking a closer look at each teams fixtures:

Brighton:
28th April, At Home Vs Oldham. Oldham 6th in table, in poor form, but a quality side you can see demoloshing Brighton
5th May, Away Vs Cheltenham. Could be a Pivitol game for us and both of thse teams, hard to say the result.
Did i mention Brighton are on a 4 game losing streak?

Leyton Orient
28th April, At Home Vs Notts Forest. Forest 3rd in table, NEED to win to stand chance of auto's, cant see Orient taking anything out of this
5th May, Away Vs Hudders. Hudders with new manager and a few good results behind them, they could really do us a favour here.

Bournmouth
28th April, At Home Vs Gillingham. This is 'easier' than all other fixtures thus far. Given their current instability however, anything could happen.
5th May, Away Vs Port Vale. Again could be classed as a 'easy' game, Vale have nowt to play for, then again home advantage and the sheer unpredictability of this league

Cheltenham
28th April, Away Vs Rotherham. Apparenteley the 'easiest' fixture, Rothers only have pride to play for. Dont count them out however, a good side as they have shown us 2 times this season
5th May, Home Vs Brighton. Again i must reitterate the potential importance of thes fixture

Bradford City
28th April, Away Vs Chesterfield. Chesterfield as good as down, We're good on the road and it truley is a 'must win' game - therefore we will
5th May, Home Vs Milwall, Shite home record, although Milwall nothing to play for - and we always pull it out of the bag on the final day when it matters

So imagine the table next saturday 5 Pm, if fixures go our way
Brighton Lose to Oldham
Orient Lose to Forest
Bournmouth Lose to Gillingham
Cheltenham Lose to Rotherham

17 Brighton 45 -8 52
18 Leyton Orient 45 -12 51
19 Bournemouth 45 -13 51
20 Cheltenham 45 -14 50
21 Bradford 45 -15 49
22 Chesterfield 45 -10 44

Yes the probability of all 4 losing and us winning, is low admittedly. But look how close it brings us into it.

Look at it if each team loses and others win then

Brighton Lose

18 Leyton Orient 44 -12 54
19 Bournemouth 44 -13 54
17 Brighton 44 -8 52
20 Cheltenham 44 -14 53
21 Bradford 44 -15 49
22 Chesterfield 44 -10 44

Here we would need definately to win to stay up, and Brighton to lose to Cheltenham (Highley plausable seen as brighton will be shitting it) However, this is where goal differnce would come in. At the moment we have an inferior record. Brighton would have to lose by at least either 2 or 3 goals in each mach. This is given a city win of just 1 nill, say we win both games 2 nill that means Brighton only have to lose 1 nill in either, and we're staying up.

Orient Lose

17 Brighton 45 -8 55
19 Bournemouth 45 -13 54
20 Cheltenham 45 -14 53
18 Leyton Orient 45 -12 51
21 Bradford 45 -15 49
22 Chesterfield 45 -10 44

This again would require them to lose on the last day, against hudders, again likely. This time we woudl go up on goal difference (given we must win by at least 1 clear goal giving us -13 and they must lose by at least one clear goal giving them -14)

Cheltenham Lose

17 Brighton 45 -8 55
18 Leyton Orient 45 -12 54
19 Bournemouth 45 -13 54
20 Cheltenham 45 -14 50
21 Bradford 45 -15 49
22 Chesterfield 45 -10 44

There goal difference will go down to -15. This means a win or a draw for city could see us up, either on goal difference or by 2 clear points, They have Brighton, again a pivitol game, but one you can see them losing, especially of the back to Brighton winning Oldham.

Basically this shows us it is imperative WE WIN BOTH GAMES

Becuase it is entirely possible we will stay up!

FAO The Doubters - would the human race of got as far as it has, with people giving up when the odds were stacked against them? No

Have a little faith, pass it on to the players and with any luck WE ARE STAYING UP

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:_4V45FleEUfMeM:http://www.bomb.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2006/04/clutchingatstraws.jpg

Clutched a load there havent you BS!

[Mallorcabantam]

You can play with figures to make them fit --
But then Bradford City FC come into the equation

[Northern]

I posted something very similar on the OMB yesterday lunch time BS!

For me Brighton are safe because of their goal difference.
Bournemouth will beat Gillingham imo, meaning they're safe.

Orient and Cheltenham are the other two,
- Orient have a very high probability of losing against Forest (most likely by a few goals) and I can't see them picking up a win against the TBs so that would put them on 52 at best, and if we win our games our gd should be better.
- Cheltenham's goal difference will mean that even two draws for them will most likely see them down providing of course that we win our games, that would also put them on 52 points!

As long as we win both our games I think we will stay up, a good win at Chesterfield will really help, but with our home form I'm not too confident about the Millwall game!

Pass the straws please!

[Jamaica Love]

Completely agree with northern... We need to get a good win at Chesterfield and hope results go our way,,,,,,Then we are in with a decent chance...Id also like a straw please.....

[Skyebantam]

Stop lingering on to hope - we are down, we won't win at saltergate. if superstition/ridiculouous hope come's into it we're better off saying we're down so as not to tempt fate. load of ol' bollacks i admit.

[wokingbantam.]

We havent won a game at home for 11, what makes people think we will win 2 games on the bounce,sorry but we are doomedtdwn:

[Blue Monday]

Completely agree with northern... We need to get a good win at Chesterfield and hope results go our way,,,,,,Then we are in with a decent chance...Id also like a straw please.....

I honestly cannot see us winning at chesterfield. I dont think it is one of our happy hunting grounds in recent years........

I remember a few years back been beaten 2-0 one sunny day and been chased by there fans after the game from pub to pub they kept finding us.jawdrop:

Note to All

Take your running shoes with you................box:

[billybantam]

i think we can win on saturday and take it to the last day but then i think we'll fail to win against millwall and ultimatley our fate will be sealed. Ultimatley our home form is why we are in the posisition we're in. Although teams have nothing to play for this can mean they play better but they still want to win.

[Parrot]

We'll be safe boys tup:

KEEP THE FAITHjump:

[Spoonhead]

We'll beat Chesterfield and lose or draw against Millwall and after the game will realise that if we'd won we'd have stayed up. I can smell it.