View Full Version : Windass deal on the rocks
DutchBantam
22nd May 2007, 08:31 AM
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/bradford?articleid=2893929
DutchBantam
22nd May 2007, 08:35 AM
If we can afford to not sell him, and Macca and Deano can work together then he could fire us out of this division.
The big points though being how much of the wage budget would Deano be eating up?
And can Deano handle not being the top dog?
king billy
22nd May 2007, 08:50 AM
I have to say - i wanted rid, don't like the man or his attitude and he could not only generate a fee but free up funds for other players - that said, with McCall in charge (who wouldn't put with any shite - even off Windass) i wouldn't be sad to see him back, he'd obviously score goals for fun at this level - the problem is that he doesn't want to come back, and he won't be too chuffed at playing under McCall, a "normal" player would be too professional to let that affect them and would knuckle down - were talking Dean Windass here and him and professionalism don't go hand in hand!!
Its just posturing IMO - he'll end up going - for a fee, Hull are under big pressure to sign him, they're trying to call our bluff!!...
Reading between the lines i'd say from JR's stance that we don't need to sell which hints to me that there is investment lined up!!....
Jantje
22nd May 2007, 08:50 AM
And can Deano handle not being the top dog?
Wouldn't have thought so!! the man has a big ego to deal with.
Typical of Hull trying to get him on the cheap, probably room for agreement though now Phil Brown is staying. The fans will put pressure on the Tigers boss to sign him up also.
Also, if hes so desperate to leave City to go to Hull as he has been quoted as saying, maybe he could pay off some of his contract at City:rolleyes:
king billy
22nd May 2007, 08:52 AM
It may have been tittle tattle and a load of bollux, but i'm sure when they were both at the club there were reports of Stu and Windass not getting on and disliking each other!!....
Northern
22nd May 2007, 08:55 AM
I think if we want a serious chance of bouncing straight back we NEED to get rid of him!
The £150k or whatever that we can get from selling him plus the freeing up of £6,000 a week on wages will help us to get a couple of decent League Two players! I fear if we keep him and can't get rid then we'll end up with loanee's again!
Jantje
22nd May 2007, 09:02 AM
Much as i think he's been a great goalscorer for us, i think it grates with him that he isn't universally loved by City fans like Macca or Hendrie or Beags etc.
Kop Kred
22nd May 2007, 09:06 AM
Much as i think he's been a great goalscorer for us, i think it grates with him that he isn't universally loved by City fans like Macca or Hendrie or Beags etc.
If he acted right in his head just did what he is best at he could be 'loved' but even if he stays and surpasses Bobby's goascoring he will never reach legendary status as he has burned too many bridges.
beerbantam
22nd May 2007, 09:06 AM
I have to say - i wanted rid, don't like the man or his attitude and he could not only generate a fee but free up funds for other players - that said, with McCall in charge (who wouldn't put with any shite - even off Windass) i wouldn't be sad to see him back, he'd obviously score goals for fun at this level - the problem is that he doesn't want to come back, and he won't be too chuffed at playing under McCall, a "normal" player would be too professional to let that affect them and would knuckle down - were talking Dean Windass here and him and professionalism don't go hand in hand!!
Its just posturing IMO - he'll end up going - for a fee, Hull are under big pressure to sign him, they're trying to call our bluff!!...
Reading between the lines i'd say from JR's stance that we don't need to sell which hints to me that there is investment lined up!!....
As iv been saying - its a triple whammy Julian has under his belt - Stu, Investers & Tickets!!
Being able to keep Deano would just be the icing on the cake!!tup: tup:
Skyebantam
22nd May 2007, 10:09 AM
maybe phil brown is just biding his time. you would have thought they'd have wanted to sign him up fairly soon after all his few goals did help hull stay up. do we think there's a possibility phil brown sees deano as having served his purpose at 'ull and too old to do any good in the champs now that hull might want to try to move up the table a bit instead of flirting with relegation?
Parrot
22nd May 2007, 12:13 PM
People keep mentioning the finances but we dont have to worry about them anymore ;)
As for Deano, if he doesn't want to play for us then what can we do about it?...best get rid if thats the case and who can blame him?...4th division or Championship with your own club?
I'd like him to stay as he guarantees goals like we found out when he left last season, but you dont want disgruntled players in the dressing room tdwn:
Beer, your acting like a jilted lover love: , he doesn't want you anymore, get over it!!! :rolleyes: :D
beerbantam
22nd May 2007, 12:28 PM
Beer, your acting like a jilted lover love: , he doesn't want you anymore, get over it!!! :rolleyes: :D
Lol, He does!!;)
Tractorbantam
22nd May 2007, 06:14 PM
At the end of the season I seem to remember news reports saying that there were a host of clubs trying to get Windass's signature. Could it not be that Rhodes is trying to start up a bit of a bidding war between these so called interested clubs? (or is Rhodes not that bright?)
BingleyBantam
22nd May 2007, 06:24 PM
A better deal would be a straight swap for Nathan Doyle. This lad will be worth millions in years to come.
ChuckleBantam
22nd May 2007, 06:30 PM
Windass will kick off the season as a full time Hull player and no money will change hands for his services.
I for one, think he is worth more to City by Staying. If you want any kind of push for promotion, you need to score goals and Windass delivers in that area.
Northern
22nd May 2007, 06:40 PM
The thing is though Chuckle, Windass doesn't provide goals when he isn't getting the service! He proved that during his last few months with us, as soon as he moved to Hull he started scoring again because they had players that were providing crosses and getting the ball in the box!
At the moment we don't have any players to provide the service to Windass and he's not going to score 20+ goals without that!
In my opinion, our best bet is to get rid of Windass for however much we can, free up £6k a week, and therefor we can either add more players to the squad or offer better players better contracts!
terrynewpack
22nd May 2007, 08:50 PM
Well I always said that we would end up paying Windass through the cricket season. Some businessman our Chairman. We will probably end up paying about half what we got for the loan spell. What financial acumen he has got. Can't even begin to think what financial manouverings he is going to have to do to pay for McCall and everything that goes with that. Mind you I do keep forgetting about the half price season tickets.
:when:
king billy
22nd May 2007, 09:19 PM
Windass will kick off the season as a full time Hull player and no money will change hands for his services
No offence mate, but with the amount of egg you've got on your face with your City predictions recently i'd not be so confident if i were you.......if he does end up at hull, i'll guarantee that money changes hands, i'll bet you £50 now David!!.....tup:
ChuckleBantam
22nd May 2007, 09:38 PM
No offence mate, but with the amount of egg you've got on your face with your City predictions recently i'd not be so confident if i were you.......if he does end up at hull, i'll guarantee that money changes hands, i'll bet you £50 now David!!.....tup:
I have egg on my face for the McCall prediction and at the end of the day I was only playing devils advocate as well you know young Matty!! Thing is, if we didn't have such a lying buffoon for a Chairman, I'd bite your hands off.Because for whatever pittance or weighted in Hulls favour deal the club get for Windass, Junior will exageratte the "undisclosed" fee just like he did with JJ. Like TNP said above and I said months ago, we are going to pay him over the summer anyway. That burden will only add to Junior's desperation to get him off the books. Now if Junior really had some bollocks, he'd bring Deano back and make him stay and spearhead the strikeforce in the Fourth Division next season...oh I forgot promotion is in the bag already isn't it and we don't need somebody who'll score for fun because he'a arrogant and a bit of a clown...:rolleyes:
Johnny Yen
22nd May 2007, 10:01 PM
As I've said previously
JR is asking for around £300,000 for Windass.
He knows he will score 15/20 goals for Hull, and even more for us.
He isn't ( contary to popular belief on here) on a exstortionate contract as he returned to City after the wage capping structure ws put into place.
And finally we have him for another two years.
If Hull want him, they pay up or shut up!
Ned
22nd May 2007, 10:17 PM
Windass has had two new contracts under Rhodes in recent years, the wage cap was introduced by Gibb, and he made it clear afterwards that he meant that the £1,500 a week was an average figure across the squad.
While I doubt the £7k a week figure that was banded about in the press when he left, he 's certainly on a good whack - and far too much for a League Two player.
IMO he'll end up going for very little, he wants to go to Hull so there is no scope for a bidding war and there's no point in keeping a player in these circumstances.
We want and need a new broom, clearing Windass out goes a long way to achieving that.
Johnny Yen
22nd May 2007, 10:45 PM
Windass has had two new contracts under Rhodes in recent years, the wage cap was introduced by Gibb, and he made it clear afterwards that he meant that the £1,500 a week was an average figure across the squad.
While I doubt the £7k a week figure that was banded about in the press when he left, he 's certainly on a good whack - and far too much for a League Two player..
I asked the club about 3weeks ago and it was comfirmed to me that City still adhere strickly to the wage structure.
The 80k per anum capping at the time (more now as it will be index linked) for a player was maximun, not to be used as a starting point because lesser squad players are on a lesser contract.
terrynewpack
22nd May 2007, 11:42 PM
Johnny if you think Windass is on a salary cap of 80k pa then you are in cloud cuckoo land whatever Pollard said to you on the official site. Windass and Wetherall are on mega money for the 4th division.
The wage structure might be applied to the rest but it doesn't apply to those two.
panther
22nd May 2007, 11:44 PM
well I for one would keep him, if only for his goal scoring...!!
I like him as a player and as a person, I know him personally and yes, he is gobby, but he is one gobby player I would prefer to see in our line up than someone else's !
If we can afford him then keep him... JR knows what he is doing.. tup:
ChuckleBantam
23rd May 2007, 06:45 AM
I asked the club about 3weeks ago and it was comfirmed to me that City still adhere strickly to the wage structure.
The 80k per anum capping at the time (more now as it will be index linked) for a player was maximun, not to be used as a starting point because lesser squad players are on a lesser contract.
Would that have been on the same "Ask the Club" section of the OMB that assured me that the Replica shirts would not be changed this summer in light of Surridge renewing their deal as supplier when they took over the Franchise of the Club shop. If Pollard told me the world was round, I'd not believe it. In line with most people in senior positions at Valley Parade he is a liar and a weasle!!
there are other instances of Gibb's defunct wagee cap being breached. Ricketts is definitely paid well in excess of it, as I would imagine are others. Windass will have originally signed as someone earning the maximum of the initial Wage Cap but has numerous contract renewels since which indicate he'd on a figure probably not too far from The Hull local paper's valuation.
Like the Hull Chairman says, he's already paid out a substantial sum for the terms of the loan deal. If anyone thinks that they'll pay out again, for a player who will be 39 before next season ends, when Hull know they are holding all the cards, then they don't have any kind of grasp as to how football works.
City have two options. Keep him or let him go for nowt. I'd love it to be the former, but fully expect the latter.
JohnBantam
23rd May 2007, 07:15 AM
Hi - First time posted on the site, sometimes post on citygent
However - Thread from citygent from a Hull supporter quoting Dean on BBC radio humberside
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Local radio in Hull this evening - (quote Deano live on air over the phone)
"I will be very disappointed if I am not a Hull City come the new season. I don't want to play in League Two - well, I won't play in League Two and that's that. In fact, the second I put the phone down I'm ringing the Bradford chairman to get it sorted."
From memory of course, but pretty much word for word. You can click on the 'Listen Again' feature on www.bbc.co.uk/humber (http://www.bbc.co.uk/humber) - the programme is called 'Sports Talk'. It's all on there, see how far out I am...
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In my opinion will never doubt his quality as a player, but at somepoint everyone has there line where there disruptive attitude overtakes quality, personally for me that was the two footed lunge against Cheltenham, as his antics previously brought him close to the line anyway
I will wish him all the best in Hull and if he doesn't lose his head but in a Bradford shirt he's lost it.
Rumour has it that a few other clubs are after him, Carlisle one of them, fingers crossed we end up with a good deal
Jantje
23rd May 2007, 07:21 AM
Hi - First time posted on the site, sometimes post on citygent
However - Thread from citygent from a Hull supporter quoting Dean on BBC radio humberside
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Local radio in Hull this evening - (quote Deano live on air over the phone)
"I will be very disappointed if I am not a Hull City come the new season. I don't want to play in League Two - well, I won't play in League Two and that's that. In fact, the second I put the phone down I'm ringing the Bradford chairman to get it sorted."
From memory of course, but pretty much word for word. You can click on the 'Listen Again' feature on www.bbc.co.uk/humber (http://www.bbc.co.uk/humber) - the programme is called 'Sports Talk'. It's all on there, see how far out I am...
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In my opinion will never doubt his quality as a player, but at somepoint everyone has there line where there disruptive attitude overtakes quality, personally for me that was the two footed lunge against Cheltenham, as his antics previously brought him close to the line anyway
I will wish him all the best in Hull and if he doesn't lose his head but in a Bradford shirt he's lost it.
Rumour has it that a few other clubs are after him, Carlisle one of them, fingers crossed we end up with a good deal
Welcome to C&B Johnbantam, i heard the same interview on Radio L**ds. The man has no idea of loyalty apart from to himself.
Undoubtedly hes been a great goalscorer but remember the Bournemouth tackle, the ref baiting etc., time to say goodbye before he destabilises the club under Macca
JohnBantam
23rd May 2007, 07:29 AM
Completely agree Jantje - Macca has a massive job to do to get us backup and with the good feeling generated he has to do everything possible to keep it,
Relying on Windass who's heart and head is not with us to me is a lead weight for the club and for Macca we need to be rid of (and replaced with £100k would be nice!)
Tyneside BCFC
23rd May 2007, 07:50 AM
Hopefully if another club shows an interest we can force Hulls hand into paying a fee. Windass has burnt his bridges as far as i'm concerned, acting like a twat on several occasions over the past couple of years. He may well be thought of as a 30 goals a season man in league 2, but for me, i'd rather have a 20 goals a season man who was 15-20 years younger, who had the appetite and desire to play for BCFC who could eventually leave for big money. I think we can get 2-3 strikers with plenty of potential in the lower leagues for the same money Mr. Gobby is on.
BTW, Bantam John, your location is Seaham, presumably the same Seaham just south of Sunderland, near Dalton Park?
JohnBantam
23rd May 2007, 08:07 AM
Yea thats the one, I work in Newcastle but moved to Seaham for house prices!
The only thing we need to ensure is that wen Windass goes, we do actually replace him, because it will be a challenge, but I suppose that might be down to the backroom staff that come in.
I still question a little is SWD / Paynter / EJ who impressed with work rate etc, but getting the 20+ goals, the jury is still out for me,
Jantje
23rd May 2007, 08:10 AM
SWD has been offered a new deal at Forest & i reckon Paynter will be out of our price range. They might even keep him if they sell Freddy Eastwood
JohnBantam
23rd May 2007, 08:21 AM
Fair point,
More the point I was making is that the players we have been bringing on loan have been workers but to me not 20+ goals a season.
Now Todd may have been at the helm, but who recommended them? - Our scouts/back room?
We struggled to get the goal scorers on loan, so to me I will be interested to see who we get in as a forward, and where/who recommended or connected to
Jantje
23rd May 2007, 08:27 AM
Fair point,
More the point I was making is that the players we have been bringing on loan have been workers but to me not 20+ goals a season.
Now Todd may have been at the helm, but who recommended them? - Our scouts/back room?
We struggled to get the goal scorers on loan, so to me I will be interested to see who we get in as a forward, and where/who recommended or connected to
Your right!!. lets hope Stu has some good connections as well as a good eye for a striker
Rick
23rd May 2007, 09:00 AM
Hi - First time posted on the site, sometimes post on citygent
However - Thread from citygent from a Hull supporter quoting Dean on BBC radio humberside
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Local radio in Hull this evening - (quote Deano live on air over the phone)
"I will be very disappointed if I am not a Hull City come the new season. I don't want to play in League Two - well, I won't play in League Two and that's that. In fact, the second I put the phone down I'm ringing the Bradford chairman to get it sorted."
From memory of course, but pretty much word for word. You can click on the 'Listen Again' feature on www.bbc.co.uk/humber (http://www.bbc.co.uk/humber) - the programme is called 'Sports Talk'. It's all on there, see how far out I am...
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In my opinion will never doubt his quality as a player, but at somepoint everyone has there line where there disruptive attitude overtakes quality, personally for me that was the two footed lunge against Cheltenham, as his antics previously brought him close to the line anyway
I will wish him all the best in Hull and if he doesn't lose his head but in a Bradford shirt he's lost it.
Rumour has it that a few other clubs are after him, Carlisle one of them, fingers crossed we end up with a good deal
The full link I think is this, unfortunately I can't check it as I have no speakers at the moment.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/networks/humberside/aod.shtml?humberside/sportstalk_humber
Kop Kred
23rd May 2007, 09:08 AM
I'd do a straight swap.... Deano and a Balti pie for Nathan Doyle.
king billy
23rd May 2007, 09:12 AM
It should be Stu's call IMO - i don't think for one minute that Windass' ego could stand the fact that McCall is so popular here, and i think he'd be a bad influence - i'm sure him and McCall don't get on either.....
If Stu thinks he's worth having here tho - then fair enough IMO, if we get rid (and it doesn't look like Stu is that bothered about keeping him) then he should have our trust that he can replace him with someone else!
Jantje
23rd May 2007, 09:14 AM
It should be Stu's call IMO - i don't think for one minute that Windass' ego could stand the fact that McCall is so popular here, and i think he'd be a bad influence - i'm sure him and McCall don't get on either.....
If Stu thinks he's worth having here tho - then fair enough IMO, if we get rid (and it doesn't look like Stu is that bothered about keeping him) then he should have our trust that he can replace him with someone else!
Quality sig KBtup: tup: :D
BaselBantam
23rd May 2007, 09:32 AM
I'd do a straight swap.... Deano and a Balti pie for Nathan Doyle.The pie would be long gone by the time they reached Hull ;)
billybantam
23rd May 2007, 09:35 AM
http://www.sporthull.co.uk/football/hull_city/tigers_news/displayarticle.php?ID=772
I think that must be from the same interview.
I've never liked the way he plays football and generally cheats. He will cause a right fuss and now to strt telling clubs what they should be paying for him. I think he should just back off and let the two chairman sought it out. I think he thinks he can be a legend at a crap club like hull as what ever he does he will never be one at Bradford. Plus the fact he'll be on a big wage packet. Some Hull fans are already acting like they've signed him so i would say they are under more pressure to buy him than we are sell him.
I hope we play the tw*t the next season...
Jantje
23rd May 2007, 01:28 PM
By his comments, isn't Dean asking to be transferred therefore we shouldn't be obliged to pay him any of his remaining 2 years money?
Skyebantam
23rd May 2007, 01:58 PM
nathan doyle - why would he want to drop down to lge 2 if he's playing for hull (?) and is as good as everyone reckons? would be nice though
Johnny Yen
23rd May 2007, 04:15 PM
Johnny if you think Windass is on a salary cap of 80k pa then you are in cloud cuckoo land whatever Pollard said to you on the official site. Windass and Wetherall are on mega money for the 4th division. The wage structure might be applied to the rest but it doesn't apply to those two.
Wethers was signed before the wage capping, therefore does earn far in excess of all the others
Windass signed after the wage capping came into force, the club statement at the time was the club will never break the bank for any player no matter WHO he is
Why should John Pollard lie ?
He may on a 'big' goalscoring bonus, not a basic
Kop Kred
23rd May 2007, 05:34 PM
nathan doyle - why would he want to drop down to lge 2 if he's playing for hull (?) and is as good as everyone reckons? would be nice though
Erm... for a game of professional football maybe:rolleyes: tup:
ChuckleBantam
23rd May 2007, 05:37 PM
Wethers was signed before the wage capping, therefore does earn far in excess of all the others
Windass signed after the wage capping came into force, the club statement at the time was the club will never break the bank for any player no matter WHO he is
Why should John Pollard lie ?
He may on a 'big' goalscoring bonus, not a basic
Johnny...The 85K Wage cap is well in the past. It was abolished after the second Admin and Junior got his "clean slate" Windass has signed three new deals since it was abolished too. The 7k figure is debatable, but there is no doubt he is the highest paid player at the club. Including Wethers. Think about it. If he was sent on loan to save on his wages, things must be ****ed if they can't afford 1500 quid a week.
Skyebantam
23rd May 2007, 05:37 PM
ah kred, that was why i put (?) i don't follow hull city so i don't know who plays for em. maybe he would come back then?
Rick
23rd May 2007, 05:42 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/networks/humberside/aod.shtml?humberside/sportstalk_humber#
Deano happens to be 15min in on that program and there is a skip function to take you to 15min and straight from the horses mouth, Deano says he won't play in league 2.
Skyebantam
23rd May 2007, 05:44 PM
aye, and city's response should be 'don't worry you fookin won't be'
Johnny Yen
28th May 2007, 09:49 AM
FAO The font of all nonsense,
Here's an article with quotes, giving details of a much more realistic view of Windass's earnings...
JULIAN RHODES insists Bradford City will have no trouble in affording Dean Windass next season if a transfer cannot be agreed with Hull City.
The 38-year-old was expected to move to the KC Stadium on a permanent basis this summer after a successful four-month loan spell with his hometown club.
The Yorkshire Post revealed on Tuesday, however, that the deal had been thrown into serious doubt due to the two clubs being poles apart in their valuation on a player who still has two years remaining on his Valley Parade contract.
Bradford are understood to want an incentive-based deal that could rise to £250,000 depending on appearances, which is double what the Tigers want to pay.
Hull supporters remain hopeful a deal can be done with many believing that Windass's wage at Bradford is around £7,500 per week, clearly way beyond the means of a League Two club.
Bradford chairman Julian Rhodes has refuted the claim, insisting last night: "I heard about a report (last January) in Hull that claimed what wage Dean is supposed to be on here and I can categrorically say it is not true.
"In fact, the contracts of the last of our really big earners (a hangover from Bradford's brief stint in the Premiership) ended in 2003, the summer that Dean joined us.
"I can assure Bradford supporters that, if Dean does return, we will certainly be able to afford his wages. That would not be a problem.
"I do not think the price we have quoted for Dean is unreasonable. Twice in recent seasons, we have turned down upfront offers from Wigan of £350,000 with a further £150,000 to be paid if they had stayed up.
"Hopefully, the matter can be resolved sooner rather than later. But I am not losing any sleep over it."
A feelgood factor has returned to Valley Parade in the past week or so since local hero Stuart McCall was confirmed as manager.
Rhodes added: "Stuart is as relaxed as I am over this. Dean is definitely in the assets column of this club, hopefully as someone to score goals next season.
"Stuart's thinking is he would be happy for Dean to come back and get a lot of goals next season. Or, equally, he could be sold and the money used to replace Dean.
"The ball is in Hull's court but if Dean does stay here, he will be an important member of the team."
Windass finished last season in the unusual position of having been the top scorer at both clubs with the eight goals he scored for Hull following the dozen he netted for Bradford.
ChuckleBantam
28th May 2007, 11:07 AM
FAO The font of all nonsense,
Here's an article with quotes, giving details of a much more realistic view of Windass's earnings...
JULIAN RHODES insists Bradford City will have no trouble in affording Dean Windass next season if a transfer cannot be agreed with Hull City.
The 38-year-old was expected to move to the KC Stadium on a permanent basis this summer after a successful four-month loan spell with his hometown club.
The Yorkshire Post revealed on Tuesday, however, that the deal had been thrown into serious doubt due to the two clubs being poles apart in their valuation on a player who still has two years remaining on his Valley Parade contract.
Bradford are understood to want an incentive-based deal that could rise to £250,000 depending on appearances, which is double what the Tigers want to pay.
Hull supporters remain hopeful a deal can be done with many believing that Windass's wage at Bradford is around £7,500 per week, clearly way beyond the means of a League Two club.
Bradford chairman Julian Rhodes has refuted the claim, insisting last night: "I heard about a report (last January) in Hull that claimed what wage Dean is supposed to be on here and I can categrorically say it is not true.
"In fact, the contracts of the last of our really big earners (a hangover from Bradford's brief stint in the Premiership) ended in 2003, the summer that Dean joined us.
"I can assure Bradford supporters that, if Dean does return, we will certainly be able to afford his wages. That would not be a problem.
"I do not think the price we have quoted for Dean is unreasonable. Twice in recent seasons, we have turned down upfront offers from Wigan of £350,000 with a further £150,000 to be paid if they had stayed up.
"Hopefully, the matter can be resolved sooner rather than later. But I am not losing any sleep over it."
A feelgood factor has returned to Valley Parade in the past week or so since local hero Stuart McCall was confirmed as manager.
Rhodes added: "Stuart is as relaxed as I am over this. Dean is definitely in the assets column of this club, hopefully as someone to score goals next season.
"Stuart's thinking is he would be happy for Dean to come back and get a lot of goals next season. Or, equally, he could be sold and the money used to replace Dean.
"The ball is in Hull's court but if Dean does stay here, he will be an important member of the team."
Windass finished last season in the unusual position of having been the top scorer at both clubs with the eight goals he scored for Hull following the dozen he netted for Bradford.
And being the Font of all gullibility you believe every word Junior, a proven liar and backtracker Says. If Junior Told me my name was Dave I'd have to have a good think about it first.
As I said, I don't believe that Deano is on 7.5K a week, but facts and history and the same bloke who you are quoting there said that he was sent to Hull to save on his wages so the bills could be paid in January. He changes his story to suit on lots of subjects and you my friend, being a prize chump believe it all. I wish Junior would drop into an interview that he thinks Johnny Yen should by Chuckles his beer when he see's him in the Swing Gate.
If Deano is affordable, he should stay. His goals could keep us in the league next season and that's worth more than any chickenfeed deal we might get from Hull and his wages that Junior has been daft enough to improve every year for him.
Sleepless in settle
28th May 2007, 01:20 PM
And being the Font of all gullibility you believe every word Junior, a proven liar and backtracker Says. If Junior Told me my name was Dave I'd have to have a good think about it first.
As I said, I don't believe that Deano is on 7.5K a week, but facts and history and the same bloke who you are quoting there said that he was sent to Hull to save on his wages so the bills could be paid in January. He changes his story to suit on lots of subjects and you my friend, being a prize chump believe it all. I wish Junior would drop into an interview that he thinks Johnny Yen should by Chuckles his beer when he see's him in the Swing Gate.
If Deano is affordable, he should stay. His goals could keep us in the league next season and that's worth more than any chickenfeed deal we might get from Hull and his wages that Junior has been daft enough to improve every year for him.
Chucks don't forget we also got a cash fee for his loan transfer, I take your point that we wouldnt send him on loan to save £1500 per week, but if you believe independant figures we have received 150k plus whatever we saved on his wages. That 150k alone I would guess would pay something like 4-6 weeks wages for the club and therefore serve as a big enough incentive to send out deano irrespective of what his individual wage is.
It's therefore entirely plausible that he may be on a considerably lower wage than the 7k figure quoted. I reckon someone should check what he's paid on football manager 2007, they usually get everything right ;-)
I doubt he is on anything as low as 1500/week I reckon its more than likely to be around 3-4k/week, which is still 15k/month on one player.
I really can't decide whether keeping him is a good idea, he'd score a shedload in league 2, but would it be at the expense of building a team that can survive in the league above? (i.e. theres a danger of relying too heavily on deano)
Sleepless in settle
28th May 2007, 01:29 PM
according to Football Manager Dean Windass is on £3000/week until 30/06/08
gaza75
28th May 2007, 01:42 PM
Get rid off him make a clean start without people with massive egos there
Johnny Yen
28th May 2007, 01:56 PM
He changes his story to suit on lots of subjects and you my friend, being a prize chump believe it all. I wish Junior would drop into an interview that he thinks Johnny Yen should by Chuckles his beer when he see's him in the Swing Gate..
WHAT !! For all the insults, lip and insolence I've had to put up with from you for the past few years, I suggest you owe me a free afternoon on the lash !!!
ChuckleBantam
28th May 2007, 02:08 PM
WHAT !! For all the insults, lip and insolence I've had to put up with from you for the past few years, I suggest you owe me a free afternoon on the lash !!!
Feel free to take it out of the frustration, banging my head against a brick wall and I can't belive what the daft gullible bugger has said now, fund:jd:
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