Alex McLeish

[Jantje]

This time a couple of weeks ago the sweaty socks were worshiping McLeish as the second coming for what he'd done for the Jock national team.


Listening to them on the radio this morning they are ready to burn him at the stake and saying he's never been any good anyway!!!


Nowt like disgruntled football fans eh!!!:rolleyes:

[Yeadon Bantam]

Whats he done wrong??

[Devil's Advocate]

Whats he done wrong??

You're on the ball aren't you!:cool:

[ChuckleBantam]

He's a ****ing numpty. Rangers were shite under him, the only decent season he had was when the Bhoys weren't interesteed and went chasing the UEFA Cup. Birmingham have just sealed their relegation. Didn't they notice that 99.9% of Scotlands brave Euro 2008 campaign was overseen by Walter Smith?

[tony d]

Pretty much talking bollox again Dave eh!!!

And he even beat France in France and the Ukraines...Go figure...Now in no way am i rating him as a manager but nor am i daft enough to slate him against another manager whos record is pretty much the same mate...


McCleish

Team From To Record
------------------------------------------G-- W-- D- L- Win %
Rangers December 13, 2001 May 8, 2006 235 155 44 36-- 65.95
Scotland January 29,07 November 27,07 --10-- 7 --3 --0 --70.00


Smith..
Team Nat From To Record
-----------------------------------------G-- W-- D-- L-- Win %
Rangers April 16, 1991 May 31, 1998 ----380 249 -68 -63 --65.52
Scotland December 2, 04 January 10, 07 -16- 7 ---4 ---5-- 43.75

[tony d]

Pretty much talking bollox again Dave eh!!!

And he even beat France in France and the Ukraines...Go figure...Now in no way am i rating him as a manager but nor am i daft enough to slate him against another manager whos record is pretty much the same mate...


McCleish

Team From To Record
------------------------------------------G-- W-- L- D- Win %
Rangers December 13, 2001 May 8, 2006 235 155 44 36-- 65.95
Scotland January 29,07 November 27,07 --10-- 7 --3 --0 --70.00

OH YEAH TWO OF THOSE THREE losses were to the World and European Champions... Never one for facts though were you Dave...


Smith..
Team Nat From To Record
-----------------------------------------G-- W-- D-- L-- Win %
Rangers April 16, 1991 May 31, 1998 ----380 249 -68 -63 --65.52
Scotland December 2, 04 January 10, 07 -16- 7 ---4 ---5-- 43.75

[Parrot]

Dont you get it?

He's a Gers man in Chucks eyes so he can do no good!

Now If O'Squeal had done similar for the Jocks national team he'd be spouting off that England had missed a good candidate for the job.

If nowt else its entertaining tup:

[ChuckleBantam]

Dont you get it?

He's a Gers man in Chucks eyes so he can do no good!

Now If O'Squeal had done similar for the Jocks national team he'd be spouting off that England had missed a good candidate for the job.

If nowt else its entertaining tup:

Only one of them is good enough to manage in The English Premiership and good enough for our national team and it aint the Carrot Top. McLiesh was never considered a sucess at Rangers by their own fans put that at the side of Saint Martin who has godlike status at Parkhead and that's all you need to know.

I'm afraid Big 'Eck is well out of his league down here whilst Saint Martin is getting the well deserved plaudits for steadily turning Villa into a Premiership force and the most likely from the also rans to gate crash the top 4 in the not too distant future, unless the FA grow a pair of Balls that is.

[tony d]

I'm afraid Big 'Eck is well out of his league down here whilst Saint Martin is getting the well deserved plaudits for steadily turning Villa into a Premiership force and the most likely from the also rans to gate crash the top 4 in the not too distant future, unless the FA grow a pair of Balls that is.

Not too distant future ...PMSFL...

Only if teams mess up in the first three or four games of the season will Villa under O'Neil ever break into the top four...

He will not even make the top six like the two previous underfinanced mangers of that club did ..

But you can dream Dave..

[ChuckleBantam]

Not too distant future ...PMSFL...

Only if teams mess up in the first three or four games of the season will Villa under O'Neil ever break into the top four...

He will not even make the top six like the two previous underfinanced mangers of that club did ..

But you can dream Dave..

So you honestly think Villa haven't improved since O'Neill took over? Honestly??

[Edwin Fitzgerald]

I think O'neill is a vastly superior manager to mother o'dreary thank you. Didn't matter if he'd been given all the money in the world- he wouldn't know what to do with it.
O'neill's a good manager. Can't see them breaking into the top four in the next couple of years- but after that, who knows?

As for McLeish- Far from sealing their relegation, I believe Birmingham just sealed their survival. Bruce bought well in the summer, and he has a good squad to pick from. He's not a master tactician like Mourinho, or a great man-manager like O'neill, but he's a workman who'll get the job done. They can play good football under him, and he knows how to use the strengths and weaknesses of his players to form a team. Rather like Bruce actually. A worthy replacement for a club of their stature.

[tony d]

So you honestly think Villa haven't improved since O'Neill took over? Honestly??

Yawn..

How many times do i have to explain to you what Gregory and Oleary did in their first couple of seasons..

Now last season under O squeal they were dog ****... Scraping draws..Now to you im sure that meant they were unlucky to not get three whereas in reality they were just as lucky to get one point..

This season they have started as brightly as last...You know when you were wetting your pants on just how messiah like O Neil was, whilst i told you it comes down to what happens over a true season and he is nothing more than a nid table manager...

Who was right btw as i seem to have forgotten...???

This season will be no different and they will drop away to their usual mid table standing after spending quite a few quid..

Villa sometimes play nice football but they did under their two previous managers too...

Once again Dave you seem to be blinkered as it is someone you like so everything that has gone on before means nowt..

Until he finishes in the top six two seasons on the bounce or better qualified for Europe or done well in the cups he has done nothing that the previous managers haven't done with shitter squads and no money..

That honest enough for you...Yet again..!!:rolleyes:

[Parrot]

Didn't Graham Taylor and Fat Ron Atkinson get Villa top four and even runners up in the top flight a few seasons?

Turnip Taylor or Fat Ron for England it is then....:rolleyes: