Has Barry Conlon got knees?

[beerbantam]

Because the big fat lardass never jumps!

Watch him when he's meant to challenge a defender for a header, he just cuddles him.
I'm yet to see him leave the floor.....:eek:

I think he's a lego man!!

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/img/world/0808_lego_a.jpg
Barry, Barry, Barry, Barry!!

[BantamMenace]

Its true mate, everyone bangs on about him winning headers n stuff, cos they just assume becos he is tall he wins alot but he really doesnt at all i noticed this a few months back.

For his size the amount of headers he wins is pretty poor IMO

[Superfatbantam]

Its true mate, everyone bangs on about him winning headers n stuff, cos they just assume becos he is tall he wins alot but he really doesnt at all i noticed this a few months back.

For his size the amount of headers he wins is pretty poor IMO

Stix was the same, much better with his feet than in the air, must be a tall man thing. Conlon however does not have the same skills with his feet, unfortunately!

[king billy]

Stix was the same, much better with his feet than in the air, must be a tall man thing. Conlon however does not have the same skills with his feet, unfortunately!

lol - was he? Must have missed that....:D
Still piss myself at the thought of Villa paying us 650k for him!!

He was a tryer, like Zico Leonard, which for all our fans fickleness - is appreciated, similar with big Baz, good he may not be, but our fans (and rightly so) appreciate effort over wasted, lazy, inconsistant skill like half of our players have!!!

[beerbantam]

similar with big Baz, good he may not be, but our fans (and rightly so) appreciate effort over wasted, lazy, inconsistant skill like half of our players have!!!

He's a poor mans Andy Tod (when played up front), except Tod scored in open play at a much - much higher level. And out of position!:rolleyes:

[king billy]

He's a poor mans Andy Tod (when played up front), except Tod scored in open play at a much - much higher level. And out of position!:rolleyes:

Were in league two mate - bottom division of the professional league system in this country, fourth tier, unfortunately Drogba, Torres and Rooney aren't available to us....:)

[beerbantam]

Were in league two mate - bottom division of the professional league system in this country, fourth tier, unfortunately Drogba, Torres and Rooney aren't available to us....:)
Pmsl, Andy Tod's in their league is he?:rolleyes:

Conlon is the worst striker on City's books by some distance. People refer to him as a tryer - i dont see that, if he tried he'd attempt to win the ball- he doesnt.

I compared him to Tod, because Tod was a tryer. The ultimate big lump of wood and way out of his depth in English football. Yet he still did a better job for us upfront (though he was a centre half), than Conlon has.

[king billy]

Yep Tod was **** - he was here because we were attempting to cut the wage bill and stave off administration - Conlons here because we can't attract much better!!

Seriously - what do you expect? If nothing else he gives us or McCall thought he would give us something different, the only reason Thorne is here is because no-one else was prepared to give a contract to someone who was crocked all the time, should he carry on being injury free till the end of the season he won't be here next season either - Topp wasn't played much till after the end of January because he'd have quite clearly been snapped up in the transfer window - so unfortunately mate, players like Conlon are gonna have to be gotten used to until we start to move up the leagues again.....

[beerbantam]

Yep Tod was **** - he was here because we were attempting to cut the wage bill and stave off administration - Conlons here because we can't attract much better!!

Seriously - what do you expect? If nothing else he gives us or McCall thought he would give us something different, the only reason Thorne is here is because no-one else was prepared to give a contract to someone who was crocked all the time, should he carry on being injury free till the end of the season he won't be here next season either - Topp wasn't played much till after the end of January because he'd have quite clearly been snapped up in the transfer window - so unfortunately mate, players like Conlon are gonna have to be gotten used to until we start to move up the leagues again.....

We paid £100k for Tod!:rolleyes:


Tod aside, the quality may be far & few between in L2, i'm not bothered about that, 100% from players is all that matters and Conlon doesnt give that, thats my point!!
if he had the ability to give 50% and make an impact it would be a different matter - but he hasnt!!
He's gained instant cult status because hes fat & bald and his name is easy to chant - that doesnt warrant playing imo!:rolleyes:

[king billy]

He chases everything down and is willing to get up and down the field, i have no idea where you get he's lazy from.....:confused:
Cumbersome, clumsy - yep, but not lazy.....there is a difference!!

[Jantje]

Windass was lazy, disruptive, argumentative, couldn't keep his big gob shut on or off the pitch...........but he scored goals. Does that make him ok then?

Conlon works harder than Windass ever did but he's at his level, Windass wouldn't even demean himself to play at this level.

[beerbantam]

Windass was lazy, disruptive, argumentative, couldn't keep his big gob shut on or off the pitch...........but he scored goals. Does that make him ok then?

Conlon works harder than Windass ever did but he's at his level, Windass wouldn't even demean himself to play at this level.

LOL, you trying to wind me up?
If Windass hadnt been shipped off to Hull then we wouldnt be in L2- but thats a whole other argument!!

[king billy]

Thats where i don't get Beers "Conlon's lazy" from - watch Thorney play, he's very lazy, but thats his game, he's got it upstairs and knows which positions to take up, he doesn't need to put as much effort running around and chasing down balls - neither did Windass......Conlon aint in the same class, and because of that he'd be absolutely crucified if he was lazy, the fans appreciate effort - and i think those who have a grasp and appreciation of the situation/position were in understand that!!
He aint the greatest - but IMO he has a part to play in our squad, Topp, Brown, Thorne and Conlon are all totally and utterly different, it gives the manager options, its a decent balance to have IMO...

[lee]

It's too easy to say 'he's the best we're gonna do', look at teams above us who have unearthed real talent from academies or non-leagues. We're a big club and now we're turning a profit (apparently) so it's no real excuse not to go out and search for someone decent rather than settle perrenial lower league cloggers like Conlon.

OK we don't have as much financial clout as the sugar daddy owned clubs but it's encouraging to hear that players want to play here because of the crowds and the history.. surely we can utilise that.

[Jantje]

Honestly, not trying to wind you up!. As KB said earlier, players like Leonard ran their balls off but couldn't hit a barn door. The fans appreciated the effort he put in trying though.

He also had to follow Bobby Campbell who was a true City legend. Conlon is following on from Windass and is nowhere near as good a player but to say he doesn't try is absolute bollox. I'm not a fan of his but i appreciate the effort he puts in whereas Windass always seemed to me as if he was playing for Dean Windass first and City second.

[king billy]

It's too easy to say 'he's the best we're gonna do', look at teams above us who have unearthed real talent from academies or non-leagues. We're a big club and now we're turning a profit (apparently) so it's no real excuse not to go out and search for someone decent rather than settle perrenial lower league cloggers like Conlon.

OK we don't have as much financial clout as the sugar daddy owned clubs but it's encouraging to hear that players want to play here because of the crowds and the history.. surely we can utilise that.

Don't believe that crap - the only time our attendances and history would play a part in someones decision is if we offered the same wages/terms as someone else, the "big attandences, big club" script naturally comes out from a new player willing to endear himself to the fans....
Weve never developed our youth players as we should - i do agree though, its something we really should be looking to develope more!!
Unfortuantely we are in the lower leagues, and players down here for the main are cloggers, we need to muscle our way out of this division before we can start watching quality again - an element of our support need to appreciate how far weve sunk!!

[lee]

I'm not sure it totally depends on the attitude of the player, unfortunately even non-league players nowadays have agents who will try and squeeze the most money out of someone especially if they're a bit good, but I'd like to imagine there'll be some out there who really do fancy a big club over an extra few hundred or so a week.

Just need to find them.

I agree about the academy but if we've got a cash inflow into the club the first priority has got to be sorting the stadium situation out one way or another. The academy doesn't look totally on it's arse after the last couple of months anyway.

[beerbantam]

Conlon aint in the same class, and because of that he'd be absolutely crucified if he was lazy, the fans appreciate effort - and i think those who have a grasp and appreciation of the situation/position were in understand that!!
Were lucky to have a club and lucky to have a clogger then? - and you understand that?:rolleyes:


He aint the greatest - but IMO he has a part to play in our squad, Topp, Brown, Thorne and Conlon are all totally and utterly different, it gives the manager options, its a decent balance to have IMO...

Your forgetting Medley in your list too, who although has done knack-all in reserves or out on loan has had more impact on games in his limited appearances than any other foward sub we have used.

You mention options. What different option does Conlon bring to the table because though he is 6 foot tall he is **** in the air, his finishing is atrocious, surely the fact that he takes the penalties isnt enough?

I'd like enlightening because "he puts himself about' simply isnt enough and from what i'v seen (which is most of the games both home and away this year) he doesnt really do anyway!!

[Kop Kred]

Were lucky to have a club and lucky to have a clogger then? - and you understand that?:rolleyes:


Your forgetting Medley in your list too, who although has done knack-all in reserves or out on loan has had more impact on games in his limited appearances than any other foward sub we have used.

You mention options. What different option does Conlon bring to the table because though he is 6 foot tall he is **** in the air, his finishing is atrocious, surely the fact that he takes the penalties isnt enough?

I'd like enlightening because "he puts himself about' simply isnt enough and from what i'v seen (which is most of the games both home and away this year) he doesnt really do anyway!!


When Baz came on agains the daliens he won every ball in the air.. the ball didn't go to a Bradford player but he won them all.
Football can appear different through the bottom of a pint glass. ;)

[king billy]

Were lucky to have a club and lucky to have a clogger then? - and you understand that?:rolleyes:


Your forgetting Medley in your list too, who although has done knack-all in reserves or out on loan has had more impact on games in his limited appearances than any other foward sub we have used.

You mention options. What different option does Conlon bring to the table because though he is 6 foot tall he is **** in the air, his finishing is atrocious, surely the fact that he takes the penalties isnt enough?

I'd like enlightening because "he puts himself about' simply isnt enough and from what i'v seen (which is most of the games both home and away this year) he doesnt really do anyway!!

To quote another expression - he takes a punch for the team, his mere presence deflects attention away from someone like Brown, he allows others a free-er role! Whilst a totally different sport - RL forwards are big numb cunts in the main who gain territorial advantage for the team, whilst footy cannot compare - the concept is similar!!....
The practice of having a large forward who is a nuisance to defences goes on at every single level.....McCall has an option of bringing on a player who can muscle around defenders who for the best part of the game have not had a physical threat to deal with from Thorne or Topp, its a different option....
BTW - your totally exaggerating his ineffectiveness, he's never going to score that many - its not "his game"....

[lee]

The point I think is he has had chances created for him that I could have scored, surely there's numb coonts out there who can finish as well? Theoretical and unlikely to happen but what if we miss out on the play-offs by two points, when you think back to Darlo at home it will be tough to swallow.

[Blue Monday]

he's never going to score that many - its not "his game"....

Agreed,

Its A bit like Daley, a winger who cannot cross the ball:)jawdrop::flame::wet::eek:

[Superfatbantam]

Good debate.

Re the laziness argument, Windass does what a striker is expected to, he scores, so no matter how frustrating he was at times it didn't matter, he got us the goals.

In terms of Conlon to be fair I haven't seen anywhere near as much of him as beerbantam has but I tend to agree. He looks ungainly, clumsy, cumbersome, he has little pace, he doesn't use his height to its full potential and he is hardly likely to be called an out and out goalscorer.

He has acquired cult status with the back of the Kop boys and he is admired for his determination and effort, but if you asked everyone of them singing his name if they rate him as a striker I reckon most would say no.

I understand the argument that this is what we will get at this level but surely we can get more out of Medley and the like, the young pacy types who will give the slow burly defenders at this level a real run around. Surely we don't have to resort to a big numb nut up front, when our game is to play down the flanks not up to a target man.

[king billy]

The point I think is he has had chances created for him that I could have scored, surely there's numb coonts out there who can finish as well? Theoretical and unlikely to happen but what if we miss out on the play-offs by two points, when you think back to Darlo at home it will be tough to swallow.

All "what ifs" mate - Thorne missed an absolute sitter the other night, much worse than Conlons ever missed, what if Rotherham had of equalised? We'd have missed out by 2 points there too - would you have got on Thornes back for potentially costing us promotion?

[Superfatbantam]

All "what ifs" mate - Thorne missed an absolute sitter the other night, much worse than Conlons ever missed, what if Rotherham had of equalised? We'd have missed out by 2 points there too - would you have got on Thornes back for potentially costing us promotion?

In a word, YES! That miss was criminal, we can laugh because we won, but they haad chances after that to score and had they done so we would have crucified Thorne. OK maybe that was a few words! ;)

[king billy]

Surely we don't have to resort to a big numb nut up front, when our game is to play down the flanks not up to a target man.

In theory - great - in practice we have 3 of the most inconsistant, poor crossing wingers in the division - you get one good game out of one of them every other week.....
When (as usually happens) JoCo or Daley have a bit of a mare - what do you do then? You change your options - which is what McCall does with Conlon....
I think its universally agreed - and by the management too that Conlon aint a starter, but he's a good option to have on the bench!!

[beerbantam]

In theory -
I think its universally agreed - and by the management too that Conlon aint a starter, but he's a good option to have on the bench!!

In theory, a player like Conlon would be great to have on the bench - but Conlon doesnt do what it says on the tin!!

He doesnt out muscle defenders, he doesnt hold the ball up well, he doesnt win much in the air, he's not a nuisance to the defenders. Players like that are common. Ashley ward had all them attributes when he was playing for us and picked up bookings week-in, week-out for being physical with opposition defences! I'v never seen Conlon use his size advantage with anyone.
Even Windass a short arse at 5'8 let them know he was there and had a physical presence !

[lee]

All "what ifs" mate - Thorne missed an absolute sitter the other night, much worse than Conlons ever missed, what if Rotherham had of equalised? We'd have missed out by 2 points there too - would you have got on Thornes back for potentially costing us promotion?

I can remember missing one from a few yards out at Mansfield which might have got us an invaluable 1-0 away at a crap side... I'm sure there's occassions where he's massively frustrated everyone as well but obviously I can't just reel 'em off the top of my head.

Point is I can handle players who knack up every once in a while a la Thorne as he will ultimately win you more points than he loses, but Bazza has scored one from open play this season and he's had the chances to score many more so over time it will build up into a significant margin, one possible of denying us a play off spot by a couple of points say.

That's why I'm lenient with Daley to go off on a tangent, yeah he's mostly carp but the one thing a game he gets right usually results in a goal. Well you get my drift.

[Parrot]

Bazza has scored one from open play this season and he's had the chances to score many more so over time it will build up into a significant margin, one possible of denying us a play off spot by a couple of points say.

In theory ;) the winner Baz scored against Lincoln that came off his foot/shin/knee/groin/chin or whatever might be the extra 2 points that get us into the play-offs jump::rolleyes:

[lee]

Yes but he could hardly fooking miss could he?!?!? And he nearly did! That's kind of my point he should have scored a few more surely on top of that, and maybe won us a couple of extra points.

I don't doubt he's a trier but I don't get why he's revered as he's pretty much a clodhopper. I have no problem with him being revered like it just puzzles me.

[Parrot]

Yes but he could hardly fooking miss could he?!?!? And he nearly did! That's kind of my point he should have scored a few more surely on top of that, and maybe won us a couple of extra points.

I don't doubt he's a trier but I don't get why he's revered as he's pretty much a clodhopper. I have no problem with him being revered like it just puzzles me.

Maybe If we miss out on the play-offs we should lay the blame on serial barn door misser Omar?

40 odd shots on goal and how many has he converted?

Im no "Bazza" fan but were watching mid table 4th division footballers, most with flaws in their game, hence the reason they are playing for a mid table 4th division club.

[lee]

Well I explained my stance on Omar but a few posts ago...

And I explained the stance on Conlon a few before that. Yes have a clodhopper if thats the best we can do :rolleyes: but FFS my gran could put some of his chances away and she's had both her hips replaced.