Liverpool: Genuine Contenders?

[Spoonhead]

After watching Liverpool tonight on MOTD, it reminded me of the Liverpool side of the 1980's. Not playing particularly well but managing to find a victory. They've had their fair share of luck too. Coming back early in the season to not just draw with Boro but undeservedly beat them! An excellent win against Chelsea recently too. They seem to have luck on their side this season. Can Liverpool do it?

[billybantam]

Everyone seems to be taking the view that they're playing badly and winning, so what will happen when they start playing well. I'm wondering what will happen when they run out of luck. They seemed to need twenty odd shots to score, a liberty they will not be allowed in many premier league matches.

Ultimatley i think they will challenge until towards the end but come up short, however i think that is enough for the fans for now

[Yeadon Bantam]

They don't even have Torres at the moment!!:eek:

[beerbantam]

After watching Liverpool tonight on MOTD, it reminded me of the Liverpool side of the 1980's. Not playing particularly well but managing to find a victory. They've had their fair share of luck too. Coming back early in the season to not just draw with Boro but undeservedly beat them! An excellent win against Chelsea recently too. They seem to have luck on their side this season. Can Liverpool do it?


I'd like to think so. Without Torres for the last few games and still beating the likes of Chelsea. The strength of their bench says it all at the moment too... Andrea Dossena, Daniel Agger, Robbie Keane, Albert Riera, Yossi Benayoun & Javier Mascherano last night.

[sweetcakes]

They wont win it while they keep doing well in Europe.Wait till Rafa starts fooking about with there first team ;);)

[king billy]

They'll finish 4th - AGAIN....

Yep, they have quality but they still don't look or feel like a team capable of challenging again....its still the defence for me that has nowhere near the quality of Man Yoo or Chelsea!!

[beerbantam]

They'll finish 4th - AGAIN....

Yep, they have quality but they still don't look or feel like a team capable of challenging again....its still the defence for me that has nowhere near the quality of Man Yoo or Chelsea!!

Who gets into 3rd?:rolleyes:

[king billy]

Who do you think? They're young, energetic, beautiful football will see them above Liverpool - plus they have the best midfielder in the world ;)

[beerbantam]

Who do you think? They're young, energetic, beautiful football will see them above Liverpool - plus they have the best midfielder in the world ;)

Hull?

Deano's good but i think your going overboard with your assessment of his ability!!:eek:

[Yeadon Bantam]

Hope he doesn't mean Gabregas as the best in the world???? :eek:

[king billy]

Hope he doesn't mean Gabregas as the best in the world???? :eek:

Who's better then? Seriously?

[beerbantam]

Who's better then? Seriously?

Gerrard is seriously better than Fabregas, they are both top players, Fabregas has age on his side but stevie G has that much more in his locker!!

[Parrot]

Although they have improved they still haven't got the quality of Chelsea or Man Utd, obviously they can beat these teams on their day but not over a gruelling season IMO.

I think they will finish 3rd and close the gap points wise on the two teams mentioned above while Villa and Arsenal will battle it out for 4th place.

Doesn't take much for the boards closet Liverpool "fans" to get moist, does it? :rolleyes:

[peter beagrie is mint]

Debatable this one. Gearrad is all action with an eye for goal, but can he pick a pass like Ces??? I don't know. Would be amazing to see them in the same team complimenting each other

[beerbantam]

Although they have improved they still haven't got the quality of Chelsea or Man Utd, obviously they can beat these teams on their day but not over a gruelling season IMO.



I thought Liverpools problem has always been not competing in the games against the other members of the top 4?

The difference this year to previous seasons under Rafa has been that of a decent start and the ability to compete/beat their main rivals. Historically under Rafa Liverpool come good in the second half of the season, i see no reason why they wont continue to improve over the season like normal & having beat Manure & Chelsea already WITHOUT arguably their best player, surely its Liverpool who are the team to catch?


Having said that, like always with Liverpool the fitness to Gerrard & Carragher are imperative!!

[king billy]

Stevie G is top drawer, up there with the very best in the world and one of the best England have produced - but if Fabregas was English i'd have him in the England team over Gerrard, one of the problems with the balance of the England team is that you have probably 6/7 players who always fancy their chances of scoring - Fabregas knows his place and would rather pick the unselfish pass over glory - he still weighs in with his fair share mind!

[Parrot]

Debatable this one. Gearrad is all action with an eye for goal, but can he pick a pass like Ces??? I don't know. Would be amazing to see them in the same team complimenting each other

I liked Cess Podd but didn't think his passing was that good? :rolleyes:


I thought Liverpools problem has always been not competing in the games against the other members of the top 4?

The difference this year to previous seasons under Rafa has been that of a decent start and the ability to compete/beat their main rivals. Historically under Rafa Liverpool come good in the second half of the season, i see no reason why they wont continue to improve over the season like normal & having beat Manure & Chelsea already WITHOUT arguably their best player, surely its Liverpool who are the team to catch?


Having said that, like always with Liverpool the fitness to Gerrard & Carragher are imperative!!

I thought Liverpool's problem in the past was more due to them not beating the teams they should, the Premierships small fry so to speak?

[SoggyMoggy]

Aye, didn't we beat them 1-0 once?

[peter beagrie is mint]

Ces Podd??? **** me! you sound old with your posts but not that old
:rolleyes:

[beerbantam]

I thought Liverpool's problem in the past was more due to them not beating the teams they should, the Premierships small fry so to speak?

Last season Liverpool ended up 11 points off the top, having taken just 4 points from a possible 18 from the other 'top 4' teams. Already they have taken 6 from the opening two games.

Agreed they need not get complacent with the smaller clubs, but these are the fixtures that sort the wheat from the chaff at the top!!

[Parrot]

Ces Podd??? **** me! you sound old with your posts but not that old
:rolleyes:

Cheers....I think? :rolleyes:

I never saw the old man play actually, just reports from some of the OAPs on here like PK and JS etc...:D

[Jantje]

Cheers....I think? :rolleyes:

I never saw the old man play actually, just reports from some of the OAPs on here like PK and JS etc...:D

Too right, a fantastic servant of the club was Ces!!!! Still a gentleman to this day and always will stop and chat to City fans.

[Parrot]

Too right, a fantastic servant of the club was Ces!!!! Still a gentleman to this day and always will stop and chat to City fans.

Yeah, but could he pass the ball as good as Stevie G though?:rolleyes:

[Jantje]

Yeah, but could he pass the ball as good as Stevie G though?:rolleyes:

Much Better:D:D;)

Only bettered by Cruyff & Pele at their peak:D:rolleyes:

[Parrot]

Much Better:D:D;)

Only bettered by Cruyff & Pele at their peak:D:rolleyes:

So Its true and not just the narcotical ramblings from PK? :D

[Spoonhead]

Last season Liverpool ended up 11 points off the top, having taken just 4 points from a possible 18 from the other 'top 4' teams. Already they have taken 6 from the opening two games.

Agreed they need not get complacent with the smaller clubs, but these are the fixtures that sort the wheat from the chaff at the top!!

That's what I'm talking about...the game yesterday and the game against Boro are 2 games that in the last few seasons Liverpool would have probably only taken 1 or 2 points out of. They seem to have the "luck/look" of champions! :D

[sweetcakes]

Notup:how the hell they didn't win tonite is beyond me because for 70 minutes they should have been well out of sight.
Games like this will cost them

[tony d]

Notup:how the hell they didn't win tonite is beyond me because for 70 minutes they should have been well out of sight.
Games like this will cost them

Why cos there is only one 'ARRY REDKNAPP!!!!!!

One week ago they had 2 points and were on their arses..

'Arry has turned em around and since he took over he has won 2 and drawn a game against a gooners side who were also miles better on the night..

Liverpools luck couldnt last and tonight someone else got the rub of the green..

Too many dodgy sendings off and last minute freaky ref decisions in the dying minutes have clouded over their last few wins..

Third or fourth yep but title contenders this year.. Nope..

Maybe next year..

Well done 'Arry!!!!!!

[Spoonhead]

*BUMP*

Liverpool still top without Torres and I've just seen on BlueSQ they're 9-2 for the title! With Torres back soon then that's worth a bet I reckon! Can't believe the side sat at the top are only the third favourites for the title. I might just put £20 on it. (Alright £5)

[sweetcakes]

*BUMP*

Liverpool still top without Torres and I've just seen on BlueSQ they're 9-2 for the title! With Torres back soon then that's worth a bet I reckon! Can't believe the side sat at the top are only the third favourites for the title. I might just put £20 on it. (Alright £5)

There 9/2 because there not going to win it tup:

[beerbantam]

*BUMP*

Liverpool still top without Torres and I've just seen on BlueSQ they're 9-2 for the title! With Torres back soon then that's worth a bet I reckon! Can't believe the side sat at the top are only the third favourites for the title. I might just put £20 on it. (Alright £5)

ALWAYS BETTER IN THE LATTER HALF OF THE SEASON TOOtup:

TOP WITHOUT GETTING ANYWHERE NEAR TOP GEAR AND WITH THEIR TWO BEST PLAYERS MISSING FOR MUCH OF THE SEASON SO FAR - ONLY A FOOL WOULD BET AGAINST THEM IMO!!

[Yeadon Bantam]

****ing scouse fans are everywhere :rolleyes:

[tony d]

Liverrpool will finish 3rd.. Only if Arsenal continue to mess up..

[beerbantam]

Liverrpool will finish 3rd.. Only if Arsenal continue to mess up..

Lol!!

You can tell you've been away with that comment!!

[tony d]

Lol!!

You can tell you've been away with that comment!!

Can you ???

Chelsea or Man Utd for the Title, Probably Chelsea..

Liverpool 3rd at best and i still reckon Arsenal will do em for third place....

Even Villa may do Liverpool this season..Every other team will strengthen in Jan apart for the Scousers..

Title contenders my arse..

[sweetcakes]

Can you ???

Chelsea or Man Utd for the Title, Probably Chelsea..

Liverpool 3rd at best and i still reckon Arsenal will do em for third place....

Even Villa may do Liverpool this season..Every other team will strengthen in Jan apart for the Scousers..

Title contenders my arse..

Shhhhhhhhhh it's there year :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Chelsea and Man U are bricking it don't you know tup:

[Parrot]

I'd say it was Arsenal not Liverpool who are in more danger of losing 4th place to Villa.

[tony d]

I'd say it was Arsenal not Liverpool who are in more danger of losing 4th place to Villa.

Nah Villa are dead certs to **** it up.. Wenger will have gooners in 3rd i reckon...

[sweetcakes]

Nah Villa are dead certs to **** it up.. Wenger will have gooners in 3rd i reckon...

Dead certs to **** or maybe they are not as strong as the teams who have dominated the top 4 in recent seasons :rolleyes:

[sweetcakes]

Maybe next season tup:

[father ted]

Maybe next season tup:

I doubt that.

[Northern]

They haven't won since Rafa had his rant at Fergie, in the mean time Man Utd move 2 points clear at the top with a game in hand! I can't see Man Utd slipping up now but can't see Liverpool dropping many points either, so think they'll probably retain the title at Old Trafford against Arsenal in May (as they won the title at Old Trafford a few years ago).

[Jantje]

Taking off Gerrard with 5 minutes to go because he's tired????? Rafa has lost the plot big time

[Northern]

Have you seen the starting 11 vs Pompey???

25 Reina
23 Carragher
37 Skrtel
05 Agger
02 Dossena
17 Arbeloa
20 Mascherano
12 Aurelio
19 Babel
24 Ngog
15 Benayoun

:rolleyes:

[Devil's Advocate]

Northern, have you seen the result? :rolleyes:

[sweetcakes]

Northern, have you seen the result? :rolleyes:

3-2 he got away with it tonight though theteam Northern put up was on there way to a defeat

[Devil's Advocate]

Doesn't matter, Gary. 3-2, top of the league. tup:

[sweetcakes]

Doesn't matter, Gary. 3-2, top of the league. tup:

For now tup:tup: I know who my moneys on ;););)I am sure Fergie is bricking it :rolleyes::rolleyes:

[Devil's Advocate]

I agree, Gary, but a win is a win. I'd have taken us getting such a win today and I'll take it next week as well. Man U beat Everton 1-0 last week, and were fortunate in some people's eyes, still I bet Fergie was quite happy with 3 points! tup:

[sweetcakes]

I agree, Gary, but a win is a win. I'd have taken us getting such a win today and I'll take it next week as well. Man U beat Everton 1-0 last week, and were fortunate in some people's eyes, still I bet Fergie was quite happy with 3 points! tup:

Hewas i bet but there not getting away with it at the moment are they Everton are a decent side errrrrrrr Liverpool will know that ;);)I just think Man U will win it by a greater margin than folk think.

Chelsea are doing nothing and don't look like doing anything.And once the CL start and Rafa starts ****ing about with his line up then you will see even more points dropped shame really because i thought this could go to the wire :(:(:(

[Legend_4]

Hewas i bet but there not getting away with it at the moment are they Everton are a decent side errrrrrrr Liverpool will know that ;);)I just think Man U will win it by a greater margin than folk think.

Chelsea are doing nothing and don't look like doing anything.And once the CL start and Rafa starts ****ing about with his line up then you will see even more points dropped shame really because i thought this could go to the wire :(:(:(


Liverpool did today, what United always do. I still think United will win it, but Im glad to see Liverpool back up there for once - if only for the nostagia of when I was a kid.

[Parrot]

Lucky win for the Mickey Mousers against one of the lesser teams of the Prem who are in freefall.....bet Man U are shitting it! :rolleyes:

Utd will sort em out at Old Trafford IF Liverpool are still in with a sniff at that time.

Villa to clinch 2nd spot???tup:

[sweetcakes]

Liverpool did today, what United always do. I still think United will win it, but Im glad to see Liverpool back up there for once - if only for the nostagia of when I was a kid.

Liverpool did today what Utd always do !!!!!!!!!!!!! What send wank line ups out and get presented goals :rolleyes::rolleyes:

[Devil's Advocate]

Utd got away with it again!:rolleyes:

[sweetcakes]

Utd got away with it again!:rolleyes:

Course they did :rolleyes:

[Legend_4]

Liverpool did today what Utd always do !!!!!!!!!!!!! What send wank line ups out and get presented goals :rolleyes::rolleyes:


I was thinking more "steal it late on"

[sweetcakes]

I was thinking more "steal it late on"

Stealing tight games maybe being given a helping hand well that's different ;)

[Legend_4]

Stealing tight games maybe being given a helping hand well that's different ;)

You are dead right. Nobody gets a helping hand from referees like Manure do.

[Devil's Advocate]

Legend, are you Steve Bennett? :D

Villa will beat Man U and lose to Liverpool, that will decide the season! tup:

[sweetcakes]

Legend, are you Steve Bennett? :D

Villa will beat Man U and lose to Liverpool, that will decide the season! tup:

And draw with Man City 1-1 tup:tup:still it's there season :rolleyes:

[sweetcakes]

ALWAYS BETTER IN THE LATTER HALF OF THE SEASON TOOtup:

TOP WITHOUT GETTING ANYWHERE NEAR TOP GEAR AND WITH THEIR TWO BEST PLAYERS MISSING FOR MUCH OF THE SEASON SO FAR - ONLY A FOOL WOULD BET AGAINST THEM IMO!!

I must be that FOOL then tup:

[Legend_4]

Its defo Manures title now if it wasnt already.

Rumour is aswell, that Rafa will be gone very soon - walked or pushed - you decide?

[Devil's Advocate]

It's their year! :D

[Spoonhead]

*BUMP*

I still think Man Utd will do it! :D