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billybantam
15th November 2008, 08:50 PM
As i seem to be the first home, though not really a fair race, and first to logon i shall say what i thought. I did think that it was the type of game which will have as many different opinions as the amount of people at Adams Park but this is my take on it....

First and foremost Wycombe Wanderers are a very good side at this level and that shouldnt be under estimated, and i thought they were better than darlo but cant comment on shrewsbury so dont know whether they are the best.

First half started well and they were bricking themselves when omar ran at them but for some reason this wore off and we reduceed ourselves to aiming long towards Conlon and Thorne, which, in my experience of the season is not where our goals have come from so i was surprised to see us try and attack like this for so long. Only about 10% of the long ball seemed to see us retain possesion and a similar thing could be said for WW.

Both defences played very well and were well organised and cleared everything, especially Graeme Lee, even though he had a full blown slagging match with Moncur as Wycombe took a throwing. On top of the solid defences neither team were 'winning' set pieces so few chances were created this way.

To give Stuart and Wayne credit they obviously told them what we were all thinking and we started hitting balls to the channels aiming to get the centre back out of posistion although as you can imagine with Thorne and Conlon proved tricky. Tom Clarke did the Bulock role ok, and like Bullock was not too noticeable but seemed to do the simple things well. For me McLaren had a very good game (controversial?) and made good passes and thoughtful passes and was trying other stuff than long balls. Our chances were reduced to long range efforts but the keeper was never tested properly either at taking crosses or stopping shots.

At the beginning of the 2nd half WW's change seemed to give them extra impetous but without creting clear cut chances until they hit the post. Evans played well marshalling his box and coming for balls but had few saves to make. Then they scored. I will leave judgement of it until i have seen the highlights but on 1st viewing it seemed to take a lucky bounce into their full backs path and he buried it.

At this point for some unknown reason we resorted back to plan A and punting long balls at Thorne and Conlon even though the threat was coming more from the 4 wide players. Boulding came on - somewhat overdue IMO - but was never able to run the channels and, like v barnet had us playing a weird lob sided 4-3-3 formation.

The reason i have called the thread, one of those things is because i thought the effort was applied by most players and that the tactics were rectified and may have allowed us to draw/win the game.

Ratings:

Evans: 7 - played well, commanded his box well and did what was expected

Moncur - 6 - defended well but hit too many long balls and didnt run with the ball enough, though was dangerous when he did

Lee - 7 - Solid

M Clarke - 7 - as above jawdrop:

O'Brien - 8 - kept their wide player quiet and looked good coming forward, solid display

Law - 6 - drifted inside but played ok, but not great

McLaren - 8 - Best game for City IMO

T Clarke - 6 - played ok, not his posistion

Daley - 6 - played well when he was involved but went missing for long periods

Conlon - 6 - Seemed to work hard and put himself about but with no consequence

Thorne - 5 - Not involved

Subs - Boulding - 5

McCall - 6 - Had us going long ball for too long but did change it, didnt make subs til too late IMO

D'Urso - 7 - You can tell a good ref from amile off because of the way they manage the game and seem in control and for me D'Urso was, odd weird decision but is too be expected and may just be my blinkers!!

Phew!!

Thanks for readingtup:tup:

jonny2201
15th November 2008, 08:55 PM
nice little read there , shame we lost but onwards and upwardstup: rotheram lost 4-0

London Bantam
15th November 2008, 09:33 PM
I must be cursed, hardly ever see us win!

We looked completely out of ideas in the first half, long balls aimed at Conlon didn't work at all and the only time we threatened was one occasion where Daley had a go at running at them. I don't know if I'm looking too much into this but Lee and Moncur had a bit of a tiff early on when Moncur squared up to him and shoved him. The crowd were pissed off at what they'd seen and let them know but to me, when team mates are like that, the signs were now there that this wasn't going to be our day.

Second half we looked a lot better, this time we were knocking it around the back and then feeding balls along the ground more to the forwards. The only problem is that Conlon really didn't want to run for anything and neither did Thorne. Chances came when Moncur raced from right back with the ball un-opposed on a few occasions and we looked a lot better with Daley seeing more of the ball.

After they scored we lost any fight we had. We played with no urgency, even when Boulding came on, we couldn't find a suitable ball in.

It was an incredibly frustrating afternoon, Wycombe aren't all that but they're organised at the back, didn't really look that threatening up front. We weren't at it today, I really couldn't understand what the point in even naming a centre midfield pairing was; they were none existant!

Brentford's the next one for me, hopefully I can end my jinx!

Ratings

Evans: 7 - Was solid, no mistakes, did what was asked.

Moncur - 7 - Would've got a 6 for the stupidness with Lee but he made some meaningful runs after a patchy first half.

Lee - 7 - Same as Moncur but he concentrated well at the back today

M Clarke - 6 - Average, but everytime the ball came to him, everybody held their breath! Not as bad as Titus Bramble though like

O'Brien - 8 - Agree with BillyBantam on this one. Very good first half, even though he was way way shorter than their wideman. Supported Daley on the left

Law - 5 - Wouldn't have known he was there if the announcer hadn't said he was starting

McLaren - 6.75 - I reckon if the forwards had actually made themselves available, his probing balls would've worked out.

T Clarke - 6 - Looked uncomfortable but managed to ghost through the game without incident

Daley - 7 - Looked our most dangerous player. Was with two friends who've never seen City and said he looks our best player by far. Just a shame that he wasn't fed the ball enough, obviously Conlon is more effective with the ball.

Conlon - 5 - Got to see enough of the ball, did absolutely nothing, tried for a penalty instead of actually trying to get to the ball.

Thorne - 5 - See Conlon, didn't move at all today, so surprised that the league's top scorer could be so bereft of any desire.

Subs - Boulding - 5 - Did nothing of note

McCall - 6 - Ive said before that playing Conlon makes us hoof it which doesn't work against the majority of sides in this division.

D'Urso - 4 - Blinkers indeed Billy, he was shockingly bad, made some really bizarre decisions, really pissed off the away fans.

jonny2201
15th November 2008, 10:18 PM
im a jinx n all so im of to rotheram and well probbly loose

Phil Yaboots
15th November 2008, 10:41 PM
im a jinx n all so im of to rotheram and well probbly loose

did you back an away win jonny...........:confused:

panther
15th November 2008, 11:07 PM
I must be cursed, hardly ever see us win!

Brentford's the next one for me, hopefully I can end my jinx!


deja vu eh... :eek:

Macca Ha Ha Ha
15th November 2008, 11:17 PM
The question must be why did we change the side from last week - yeah maybe Thorne back in and super sub bazza on the bench - but leaving Boulding on the bench for 3/4 of the game ?! - then again if we hoofed it forward then it owuld have made no difference

Likewise why TClarke back in the side in a position that did not favour him ? - we had other options

All in all sounds to have been a frustrating game - won by the manager with a bit more nous and experience - hope Stu learns from this as the board will not be patient come May if we have missed out

Darlo Top still and marching on, with 3,500 crowds - some budget they must have ahem

citygirl
15th November 2008, 11:30 PM
It's not about the result this time. it's about the performance..it sounded solid. First priority of a clean-sheet was nearly achieved. Didn't gain any points. But didn't concede a hat-full of em either...They might not have scored as many goals as we have since the start of the season. but there's no doubting that ability is there...and they only scored one. We sound like we've improved defensively from the recent dip. and we can take from this performance into next weeks game as a damage-limited exercise. hopefully. we'll bounce back again against Roverum :) - and with injuries and such-like still to come back. who knows how the rest of the season is gunna go...but grab your wristbands, and hold on tight. . we have a good few roller coasters to travel yet, i feel ;)

Macca Ha Ha Ha
15th November 2008, 11:37 PM
think you arre dead right cg, but well get opromoton - we are going uop

Macca Ha Ha Ha
15th November 2008, 11:37 PM
no morew stella noe eh

citygirl
15th November 2008, 11:40 PM
lol. no wisey. lay OFF the loopy juice for the night i think :D

Macca Ha Ha Ha
15th November 2008, 11:42 PM
the last onee does it eberuy toime

London Bantam
16th November 2008, 12:13 AM
deja vu eh... :eek:

Indeed!tdwn:

lee
16th November 2008, 01:05 AM
I see Peter Taylor is still a proud proprieter of the beautiful game... not.

What a truly horrid niggly nasty side Wycombe are. Diving, holding, pulling shirts, moaning at the officials and boring as sin to watch.

OK we weren't much better but had they not put away a rather lucky break in the box I can't see how they would have scored if they were still playing now.

Topped off with truly woeful officiating from the ref and one of the linos, imagine my shock when I read in the programme it was none other than supposed 'decent' ref Andy D'Urso.

I didn't think we were that bad but Baz and Thorne were totally anonymous and we never really looked like transforming any pressure we had into goals. I wish Stu had thrown caution to the wind a bit by getting some pace on (Osborne?) earlier rather than waiting for something to happen as they were there for the taking.

I disagree with Billy really, if Wycombe get promoted over the likes of Darlo, Shrews or even someone like Rochdale it will be a travesty for L2 football.

billybantam
16th November 2008, 02:24 AM
I never said i agreed with the way they play football and i agree 100% with you about their goal. I said they are a good team for this level, not that they are playing dutch style total football. They have a very strong defence and can hurt you on set pieces. That is sadly good enough for the league we're playing in. Hereford anyone?

I thought exactly the same thing about their style of play and if i was a wycombe fan i wouldnt be desperate to get back to watching them as it was dull and they need set pieces or a lucky bounce to score. I bet half of 'em were glad when the macclesfield match was abandonned.

I never said i wanted them to get promoted but i felt they looked more solid and better prepared for winning promotion than Darlo were when i saw them on the box.

I agree with you with regards to pace as this did seem to be our best way of attacking them and hitting them where it hurts, their wing backs didnt look like owt to write home about and it was days like tday where we miss Colbeck.

Yeadon Bantam
16th November 2008, 09:42 AM
I feel we need somthing different up front! We need a fast skillful pacy attacker, like Leon Knight!

We are too similar up front, conlon and thorne both can head but neither are very fast. Boulding is the same.

Leon Knight would be ideal or someone like Omar who can play up front.

peter beagrie is mint
16th November 2008, 12:09 PM
First of all, the city fans were amazing all 700 hundred of ustup:McCall got it wrong to day IMO. Central midfield is a key position and we played a centre-back loanee there:confused: I know we have injuries but he could have overcome that.

O'Brien was superb and MOM for me, he got stuck in and attacked the flank brilliantly, MClaren was busy and involved and Lee looked solid. That aside was a dissapointing performance.

I feel for Omar, we rely far too much on the fella and his head dropped through pure frustration in the end.
Finally, if the truth hurts then tough ****! Baz is a useless, big pile of shite,he's so slow and clumbsy,we should stick to bringing him off the bench in the final third of games as something different.
Sorry to say, also. Thorne looks totally ****ed and should not be playing if not fit.:)

Kop Kred
16th November 2008, 12:15 PM
Thorne looks totally ****ed and should not be playing if not fit.:)
....The evil chairboys must have secreted some Kryptonite in the away dressing room.:rolleyes:

peter beagrie is mint
16th November 2008, 12:18 PM
Or, maybe he's old and crocked. Truth hurts?

lee
16th November 2008, 01:31 PM
Billy: sorry I wasn't having a go.

I just think Wycombe are one of those annoying teams who will grind out results luckily and probably get promotion. Hopefully they will get found out at some point but there always seems to be one who slips through every year.

I'm frustrated that we couldn't get a point because we more than deserved one but we were too lacking in ideas up front to ever get a win. Macca did get it wrong yesterday, not in CM though, I can understand compromises in there because of the injuries, I would say up front.

There was not enough killer instinct and too much fannying about with the ball because Baz and Thorne don't have the tenacity to run about creating movement and space in their defence.. Wycombe were too well organised for us to just play it into the front two and hope for the best..

We were crying out for some pace really and Daley was the only one who could give it. By the second half he had 3 men on him. It was a bit of a hopeless task. I would have liked to see Boulding or even Osborne on sooner when it became apparent it wasn't going to be Bazza's day but Stu stalled way too long.

Having said that Baz had absolutely fcuk all joy from the appalling officials who unfathomably treated Wycombe's big ginner forward up the end with exactly the opposite policy.

I was shocked at the lack of a backbone that D'Urso seemed to have whilst being swayed by the home team on and off the pitch, it's 4000 in Wycombe not 75000 at Old Trafford ffs.

lee
16th November 2008, 01:39 PM
P.S. Luke O'Brien was absolutely excellent again, I think he looks a real quality youth product for once. I can't see how Hecks is going to get anywhere near the team at the moment.