Do you back McCall to guide us to promotion?

[Parrot]

No doubt if we'd had lost yesterday there would have been handfuls of posts on here questioning Maccas tactics and no doubt wanting him sacked!

So the question Is, do you back McCall and think we will be promoted to League One by the end of the season, or do you think he hasn't got what It takes and despite us been 4th and placed in a good position to clinch a top three position at the moment, he should go and give another manager a go?

[Northern]

Put it this way... I have £100 on us to get promotion at 9/4 and £15 on us being Champions at 10/1, so I've definately backed McCall to guide us to promotion!

However, if he doesn't, then he has to step aside imo! You can put last season down to a lack of experience (even though McCall said he had failed), but he's now in the last year of his contract and if he doesn't achieve his goal of getting us promoted I can't see him signing a new deal!

[Blue Monday]

Put it this way... I have £100 on us to get promotion at 9/4 and £15 on us being Champions at 10/1, so I've definately backed McCall to guide us to promotion!

However, if he doesn't, then he has to step aside imo! You can put last season down to a lack of experience (even though McCall said he had failed), but he's now in the last year of his contract and if he doesn't achieve his goal of getting us promoted I can't see him signing a new deal!

I agree with northern:cool:

[cortado]

What if you back him but don't think he should be sacked if he doesn't get us promoted?

I think we have a good chance of promotion, but I also think a lot of us over-estimate how good we are, in the context of the other teams in the league.

[red book]

No doubt if we'd had lost yesterday there would have been handfuls of posts on here questioning Maccas tactics and no doubt wanting him sacked!

So the question Is, do you back McCall and think we will be promoted to League One by the end of the season, or do you think he hasn't got what It takes and despite us been 4th and placed in a good position to clinch a top three position at the moment, he should go and give another manager a go?
were shite,and now over the crucial xmas period when the cream rises to the top thats when well struggle to keep with the pace setters,too many loan players are coming aborad meaning every other month its chop and change plus were stll standing off teams and still have no mobility through the spine of the team,how the hell were 4th is beyond me,yes its league 4,yes weve all got to get it in our heads with what to expect quality wise week in week out but i cant think of more than 2 games where ive come away convinced that we may be able to have a decent season,tactics wise hes clueless,and he cant seem to motivate us for a full 90minutes,yest we got away with a win,but you know and i know on another day we should have been at least 3-0 down by half time,it was our day but we have to show more,its a piss poor league and we shpuld be playing with more nouse and conviction.

[Mallorcabantam]

Do you think Stuart will become a good manager of any team --
He will keep learning, so yes

Do you want himto be a good manager at City --
Yes

So to me --
He will keep improving and is the man for the job -- both long and short time tup:

[red book]

Do you think Stuart will become a good manager of any team --
He will keep learning, so yes

Do you want himto be a good manager at City --
Yes

So to me --
He will keep improving and is the man for the job -- both long and short time tup: its a well know fact matey if we dont go up this year hes no more manager of bradford city so its short term only mate im afraid,thats why im amazed hes signing players like he is and has and hasnt got an experienced no2 with him cos hes certainly put all his eggs in one basket and in my oppinion half ofg them have cracked all ready.

[Poulton]

its a well know fact matey if we dont go up this year hes no more manager of bradford city so its short term only mate im afraid,thats why im amazed hes signing players like he is and has and hasnt got an experienced no2 with him cos hes certainly put all his eggs in one basket and in my oppinion half ofg them have cracked all ready.

Ye, half of them have cracked on your face! jump:

[Tallinnbantam]

haha! I'd like to think we'll get in the playoffs (and like others, I have a shed load of money on us to get promoted), but would prefer it if we put together a good string of results and move us up to the automatic places. I also agree with Rebook (shock admission!) that if we don't go up, ML will get all headstrong again and declare the season a disaster, which will mean that Stu will get sacked, or he will walk.

[Macca Ha Ha Ha]

redbook's fishing again - forgetting to mention that we'll have the lieks of Colcbeck, Brandon and Bullock back not that long into the New Year - just right for a fresh boost for the squad.
We are good enough to go up in the top 3 if the players can hack it mentally - yesterdays win showed we have goals through the team - looking good overall despite the 5 defeats - I wonder how Wycombe's players will react when they lose a couple of games?

[Mallorcabantam]

Time you found some new and interesting stuff to post Redbook --

Or does your book only have 1 chapter?

One of those great unfinished masterpieces!


:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


Scuse the over use of :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:s

[Kop Kred]

Of the two poll options there is only one that can be chosen... not even the City board would be mad enough to sack a manager when sitting in a play-off spot.

Whilst I doubt the level of Stuart's motivational skills and his tactical nous there is no denying that if he was total shite we would be in the bottom half of the table not vying for automatic promotion... there must be something about him eh?.. or am I being naive?
Could it be that we have the quality of player that although lacking in motivation and direction are keeping us in the play-off spots in spite of McCall not because of him.

The best of us have criticised his selections, tactics, formations and subtitutions this season.. even when we have won. There are few occasions when we can say the "he got it right today".
Without trying to sound cliched.. he IS still learning.. and I think he will be a successfull manager, some time.. whether that is with Bradford City remains to be seen.. I hope it is, but if we don't get promoted this season I think he will walk and get a managerial position at a club where there will be less pressure and expectation.
Should we get promoted.. he will have another season's experience under his belt and hopefully take us from strength to strength.
This club needs stability, both on and off the park.

I think we have to remember also that it's not only Stuart influencing the players... there's Jakes and Wetherall as well.. and Stu may need to take a look at their contributions and make decisions that may not be popular with himself and the fans. He would have been stronger I feel if he had drafted in an experienced manager at this level to guide him through his tutorage.

[beerbantam]

However, if he doesn't, then he has to step aside imo! You can put last season down to a lack of experience (even though McCall said he had failed), but he's now in the last year of his contract and if he doesn't achieve his goal of getting us promoted I can't see him signing a new deal!

Re Parrots question, I think everyone wants McCall to succeed & we all hope he gets us promoted. TBH though i think any manager who is in charge this year yould be expected to get promotion with the tools at his disposal!
As for Northerns coment about him not signing a new deal if he fails to take us up!!
Imo, play-off final loss is the only scenario where i think he would be offered a new contract if we dont go up automatically. I honestly think that if at any stage this season we look to be losing ground on the automatic spots for promotion Lawn will not hestitate to replace Macca with a man capable of leading this squad to L1!

[Yeadon Bantam]

I back him, but some of his decisions and tactics etc have been questionable!

[Devil's Advocate]

I agree with KK. tup:

[peter beagrie is mint]

Let's hope McCall gets that Magic Wand from Santa:rolleyes: It seems his current wand, doesn't work.

[billybantam]

But who would make the decision to pull the trigger, obviously speaking hyperthetically.

I cant see Rhodes wanting to give him the boot if we're falling away, but if, as Beer expects, Lawn wanted a change if we're off he pace...

This was Rhodes' appointment and i still believe that he would stick with him til the 11th hour or possibly later,

Although i dont want it to happen, it would be interesting to see who would come out on top...

[Kop Kred]

But who would make the decision to pull the trigger, obviously speaking hyperthetically.

I cant see Rhodes wanting to give him the boot if we're falling away, but if, as Beer expects, Lawn wanted a change if we're off he pace...

This was Rhodes' appointment and i still believe that he would stick with him til the 11th hour or possibly later,

Although i dont want it to happen, it would be interesting to see who would come out on top...


Rhodes usually wins... he just sits in his office chair with his eyes closed, his fingers in his ears, singing "la la la la la la la la la la la la la la ........"

[Tills]

Of the two poll options there is only one that can be chosen... not even the City board would be mad enough to sack a manager when sitting in a play-off spot.

Whilst I doubt the level of Stuart's motivational skills and his tactical nous there is no denying that if he was total shite we would be in the bottom half of the table not vying for automatic promotion... there must be something about him eh?.. or am I being naive?
Could it be that we have the quality of player that although lacking in motivation and direction are keeping us in the play-off spots in spite of McCall not because of him.

The best of us have criticised his selections, tactics, formations and subtitutions this season.. even when we have won. There are few occasions when we can say the "he got it right today".
Without trying to sound cliched.. he IS still learning.. and I think he will be a successfull manager, some time.. whether that is with Bradford City remains to be seen.. I hope it is, but if we don't get promoted this season I think he will walk and get a managerial position at a club where there will be less pressure and expectation.
Should we get promoted.. he will have another season's experience under his belt and hopefully take us from strength to strength.
This club needs stability, both on and off the park.

I think we have to remember also that it's not only Stuart influencing the players... there's Jakes and Wetherall as well.. and Stu may need to take a look at their contributions and make decisions that may not be popular with himself and the fans. He would have been stronger I feel if he had drafted in an experienced manager at this level to guide him through his tutorage.

Why on earth should "one of our own" be under more pressure and subject to higher expectations at VP than anywhere else. Surely the reverse should be the case. He is one of us.

This man owes us absolutely **** All and should have the total backing and loyal support from the fans who he gave his all to as a player twice round and is now doing again as a manager.

How many of you had the balls or nounce to call his appointment a bad one when it was made. I reckon, like myself, most were jumping for joy. Why?? Not because we were appointing Venables Ferguson or Venga, but a man who was prepared to give everything for our cause and still is.

We are joint third top. Not joint third bottom.

Someone needs to explain to me why this witch hunt is growing in strength on this board.

KK talks about the players keeping us in contention despite McCall. Who brought them in FFS??

I can't help the feeling that there is a certain faction now looking for us/expecting us to loose so they can give it the big "told you so."

I will never subscribe to it and as long as McCall is in charge he will have my full backing. He deserves nothing less. Thankfully, I still think I am in the majority on the terraces, if not on the C&B.

[Parrot]

The best of us have criticised his selections, tactics, formations and subtitutions this season.. even when we have won. There are few occasions when we can say the "he got it right today".

Trouble Is no one mentions "When he gets it right" do they?

Saturday he Introduced Baz which immediately changed our attacking play for the better but i dont see anyone giving him credit for that do you?

Accrington Stanley, again Baz brought on and he goes three up front that turns the game on its head and a defeat into victory but again no credit.

I hope Macca takes us up and fooks off because im begining to wonder what some City fans expect from a manager with a 4th division club with 4th division players?

I'll hazard a guess that most of those who can't wait to critisise Macca are the same ones who boo Conlon and most probably get their unrealistic expectations from watching their "2nd" Premiership team they lay claim to supporting.....:rolleyes::rolleyes:

[beerbantam]

I'll hazard a guess that most of those who can't wait to critisise Macca are the same ones who boo Conlon and most probably get their unrealistic expectations from watching their "2nd" Premiership team they lay claim to supporting.....:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Pmsl, you've posted the same thing so many times they are now....;)

Parrots 7 Commandments on how to support Bradford City!!

i Thou shalt not criticise a **** centre forward!
ii Thou shalt not expect decent football in L2!
iii Thou shalt not enjoy any football of the Premiership!
iv Thou shalt not criticise anything Ginger!
v Thou shalt not have 'unrealistic expectations' of promotion!
vi Thou shalt revel in our heritage of bottom two division mediocracy!

[Parrot]

Pmsl, you've posted the same thing so many times they are now....;)

Parrots 7 Commandments on how to support Bradford City!!

i Thou shalt not criticise a **** centre forward!
ii Thou shalt not expect decent football in L2!
iii Thou shalt not enjoy any football of the Premiership!
iv Thou shalt not criticise anything Ginger!
v Thou shalt not have 'unrealistic expectations' of promotion!
vi Thou shalt revel in our heritage of bottom two division mediocracy!

Thats just It though, i gotta keep posting the same things till it sinks in that were a 4th division team with 4th division players and there's no other clubs in this division who constantly play like the great "total football" Ajax side for 90 mins every week.

Also Baz Conlon Is a 4th division clogger who can't play or do the same tricks or score as many goals as Fernando Torres.:rolleyes:

Until It sinks in and these "myths" are dispelled that were lucky to be 4th and Darlo, Rochdale, Wycombe and Shrewsbury are playing like "Brazil" every week then i'll have to keep repeating myself.

[beerbantam]

Thats just It though, i gotta keep posting the same things till it sinks in that were a 4th division team with 4th division players and there's no other clubs in this division who constantly play like the great "total football" Ajax side for 90 mins every week.

Also Baz Conlon Is a 4th division clogger who can't play or do the same tricks or score as many goals as Fernando Torres.:rolleyes:

Until It sinks in and these "myths" are dispelled that were lucky to be 4th and Darlo, Rochdale, Wycombe and Shrewsbury are playing like "Brazil" every week then i'll have to keep repeating myself.

But there is only you who keeps mentioning total football and playing like Brazil. From what i'v read on all the boards i have only ever seen the odd critisism for effort & tactics - which has **** all to do with ability!!

[baldbantam]

I've no desire to see the back of McCall and I think he's making a decent fist of it given that he is relatively new to management. However, I would expect my dog to be able to take us up this season due to the budget we have in relation to other teams and the fact that several of the teams which should be promotion chasers had points deducted.

McCall's big positive is that he is worth an extra couple of thousand season tickets by himself. Noone else could bring the same level of support through the gates.

I don't think he's necessarily the best manager out there who would be available to us, and I think he would be easy enough to replace in terms of managerial ability. It's not an out and out disaster if Sheffield or Rangers decided to offer him a job and he left us.

He may eventually be an absolutely top manager, and I hope it is with us. But at the minute he is still learning his trade, and he is making mistakes as he goes along. I can live with that - it just means he's human - and overall the results are more than acceptable.

[Parrot]

But there is only you who keeps mentioning total football and playing like Brazil. From what i'v read on all the boards i have only ever seen the odd critisism for effort & tactics - which has **** all to do with ability!!

Well tell me what you expect from the team cos we keep churning out results that are keeping us in contention for automatic promotion, surely the management are doing something right or is it all luck? :rolleyes:

The players put as much effort in as our opponents, if we didn't surely we'd be beaten every week or is that also down to luck? :rolleyes:

Why dont you and others give McCall some credit when he gets it right?

No one remembers the times when he's changed things like on Saturday and we've gone onto win a game do they?

[beerbantam]

Well tell me what you expect from the team cos we keep churning out results that are keeping us in contention for automatic promotion, surely the management are doing something right or is it all luck? :rolleyes:

The players put as much effort in as our opponents, if we didn't surely we'd be beaten every week or is that also down to luck? :rolleyes:

Why dont you and others give McCall some credit when he gets it right?

No one remembers the times when he's changed things like on Saturday and we've gone onto win a game do they?

Your arguing with yourself. There's only Redbook slamming McCall from what i'v read.:rolleyes:
Others including myself & KK have simply said what they've seen and been honest about what McCall has done. Thats not to say anyone wants him out. Baldy has just reiterated what i said earlier in the post and an idiot/dog should be getting us out of L2 this year with our budget.
Much of the critisism (which is limited) is born of frustration because whether or not you like it - we have a squad capable of pissing this league!!

[Kop Kred]

(I)Why on earth should "one of our own" be under more pressure and subject to higher expectations at VP than anywhere else. Surely the reverse should be the case. He is one of us.

This man owes us absolutely **** All and should have the total backing and loyal support from the fans who he gave his all to as a player twice round and is now doing again as a manager.

(II)How many of you had the balls or nounce to call his appointment a bad one when it was made. I reckon, like myself, most were jumping for joy. Why?? Not because we were appointing Venables Ferguson or Venga, but a man who was prepared to give everything for our cause and still is.

We are joint third top. Not joint third bottom.

(***)Someone needs to explain to me why this witch hunt is growing in strength on this board.

(III)KK talks about the players keeping us in contention despite McCall. Who brought them in FFS??

(IV)I can't help the feeling that there is a certain faction now looking for us/expecting us to loose so they can give it the big "told you so."

(V)I will never subscribe to it and as long as McCall is in charge he will have my full backing. He deserves nothing less. Thankfully, I still think I am in the majority on the terraces, if not on the C&B.

(I) Dunno... erm... let's call it "the Messiah syndrome"©KK

(II) ReDbOoK... he say NO!

(III) I posed the question.. that's all:rolleyes: (I do wish folks would read the post properly:rolleyes:)

(IV) pmsl! if you had been on here long enough you would know that apart from Wisey and Polly I'm probably the most optimistic and supportive poster on here...feck... I even gave the Toddmeister more of a chance than most.

(V) Quite right.

;)tup:


(***) Get a grip!!

[Tills]

Re Parrots question, I think everyone wants McCall to succeed & we all hope he gets us promoted. TBH though i think any manager who is in charge this year yould be expected to get promotion with the tools at his disposal!
As for Northerns coment about him not signing a new deal if he fails to take us up!!
Imo, play-off final loss is the only scenario where i think he would be offered a new contract if we dont go up automatically. I honestly think that if at any stage this season we look to be losing ground on the automatic spots for promotion Lawn will not hestitate to replace Macca with a man capable of leading this squad to L1!

Beer, I would agree with your post until this point. Then you throw in a totally unneccessary, disruptive comment for no other reason that I can see other than - because you can.

It's like You feel it neccessary to keep introducing these negative statements as if McCall needs keeping in line and reminding him that no one is bigger than the club.

It puts me in mind of a certain chairman, who allegedly told our most successful manager of all time that if his contract were up for renewal, he would not be getting a new one.

We all know where that little gem took us don't we.

[Parrot]

Your arguing with yourself. There's only Redbook slamming McCall from what i'v read.:rolleyes:
Others including myself & KK have simply said what they've seen and been honest about what McCall has done. Thats not to say anyone wants him out. Baldy has just reiterated what i said earlier in the post and an idiot/dog should be getting us out of L2 this year with our budget.
Much of the critisism (which is limited) is born of frustration because whether or not you like it - we have a squad capable of pissing this league!!

Well you may not realise that were still in November and we've over half the season still to play.

I wonder if your Idiot/dog would get Shrewsbury to piss this league also?

They spent big, signed Grant Holt for 170k and pumped a lot of money into their wage budget.....how come they are behind us? :rolleyes:

[beerbantam]

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Beer, I would agree with your post until this point. Then you throw in a totally unneccessary, disruptive comment for no other reason that I can see other than - because you can.

It's like You feel it neccessary to keep introducing these negative statements as if McCall needs keeping in line and reminding him that no one is bigger than the club.

It puts me in mind of a certain chairman, who allegedly told our most successful manager of all time that if his contract were up for renewal, he would not be getting a new one.

We all know where that little gem took us don't we.




Thanks for that post-appraisal BantamTills, i'm sure i'll bare your comments in mind next time i post!!:cool::cool:

[sweetcakes]

I always thought it would take him 3 seasons to get us up :cool::cool:looks like he will do it a season early tup:tup:tup:

[beerbantam]

Well you may not realise that were still in November and we've over half the season still to play.

I wonder if your Idiot/dog would get Shrewsbury to piss this league also?

They spent big, signed Grant Holt for 170k and pumped a lot of money into their wage budget.....how come they are behind us? :rolleyes:

I know nothing about The Shrews. But like us, heads will roll if they arnt in the auto mix come May!!

[Tills]

Thanks for that post-appraisal BantamTills, i'm sure i'll bare your comments in mind next time i post!!:cool::cool:

Thought as much.

Just Like the good old days of the OMB that one fella. And here was me thinking this place was a different.

Why don't you tell it like you really want to and tell me to mind my own business whilst you sit in your comfort zone.

Many thanks for humouring me this far.

Ill stick to counting numbers eh?? tup:

[citygentwyke]

great post bantamtills,at last some sense!

[Parrot]

I know nothing about The Shrews. But like us, heads will roll if they arnt in the auto mix come May!!

Both managers know the boards aims and expectations and im sure McCall will deliver, but unlike you and others i realise it will be a struggle with many ups and downs along the way.

[beerbantam]

Both managers know the boards aims and expectations and im sure McCall will deliver, but unlike you and others i realise it will be a struggle with many ups and downs along the way.

I dont doubt it will!!

But we can all leave each game with a smile on our faces having won or lost if the season is played out with 100% from all involved!!

From being one of the most vocal last season when Omar hit a slump in form, you are happy for the underachievers like McLaren and co to continue in the team without criticism - because In Stu we trust?

The bottom line is that our league position is great - everyone of us would have taken it at the start of the season. It will take the mother of all ****-ups for us not to make the top 3 at the end of the season. We have quality players to come back in the team and the general consensus is that we have yet to play anywhere near our best or have a game where people walk away saying more than 3 of our players played well in any given game.

Things really can only get better or should only get better!!

[Parrot]

I dont doubt it will!!

But we can all leave each game with a smile on our faces having won or lost if the season is played out with 100% from all involved!!

From being one of the most vocal last season when Omar hit a slump in form, you are happy for the underachievers like McLaren and co to continue in the team without criticism - because In Stu we trust?

The bottom line is that our league position is great - everyone of us would have taken it at the start of the season. It will take the mother of all ****-ups for us not to make the top 3 at the end of the season. We have quality players to come back in the team and the general consensus is that we have yet to play anywhere near our best or have a game where people walk away saying more than 3 of our players played well in any given game.

Things really can only get better or should only get better!!

So why are you and others moaning after every game, nit picking at Maccas every decision if you think we'll go up?

Isn't a first promotion in nearly ten years good enough for everyone or does it have to have whistles and bells attached?:rolleyes:

I'll take a performance like the Rotherham or Accy Stanley game everytime if we go up, or would you prefer us to be unlucky losers like we have been too many times in the past?

I aint happy with Mclarens form and he wouldn't be in MY team but i aren't the manager who has guided us to 30 points and 4th in the table am I?

Maybe Macca will pick Mclaren tomorrow and he'll hit the winner?....who would be right and wrong then?

You were promoting Osbourne and made threads wanting him in the side, Macca played him and he was poor, so maybe he was right to drop him for the Wycombe game?

I'll back Macca till its mathmetically impossible to go up this season. tup:

[baldbantam]

You can be supportive of someone whilst still acknowledging that they aren't perfect.

[Parrot]

You can be supportive of someone whilst still acknowledging that they aren't perfect.

If McCall was the perfect manager or made less mistakes than some fans think he should then he wouldn't be managing a 4th division club like ours for long.

[beerbantam]

So why are you and others moaning after every game, nit picking at Maccas every decision if you think we'll go up?


Find me the posts where i'm moaning and nit picking Maccas every decision after every game?

You wont find them, because they only exist in your head!!

[Parrot]

Find me the posts where i'm moaning and nit picking Maccas every decision after every game?

You wont find them, because they only exist in your head!!

You've already said on this thread that an Idiot or your dog would piss the league with this squad so your obviously not happy that were only 4th and not 20 points clear at the top by now aren't you?:rolleyes:

Maybe your right and Im getting you confused with REdBoOk?:confused:

BTW You or REdBoOk haven't voted yet. :)

[Devil's Advocate]

This is football, guys. We are all entitled to have our opinions and we will often disagree with the tactics, personnel, result, substitutions etc. That is the nature of the beast, just that nowadays we do it online as opposed to on the terraces or in the pub afterwards!

There are very very few dissentors on here in terms of being opposed to McCall, but there are many who will take a realistic approach. That makes them no less of a supporter, especially the likes of beer and KK, their dedication to City is unquestionable.

I can sum this up in the Barry Conlon Experience. Not long since, this guy was jeered and mocked by the vast majority of the crowd, and only a small minority were trying to show blind faith in his workrate and commitment to the cause. He shocked the boo boys with his attitude and he has looked a far better option in achieving a positive result arguably than Thorne, Boulding or any of the fringe strikers. He has kept going, probably done enough to earn a new contract and is scoring key goals. Suddenly we are all supportive of him and recognise that irrespective of his abilities as a footballer he is a useful weapon in getting results at this level. That doesn't mean I can't still have an opinion that he is not in my eyes good enough for what we are aspiring to be. I will support the guy but I should also be allowed to criticise him. Likewise McCall. I worship the ground the guy walks on, but I reserve the right to call into question his ability as a Manager as well as his decisions or lack of when we do not perform to the best of our ability. Arguably we are fortunate to be in the position we are because we have not had many games where we have performed for the full 90 minutes. McCall himself has admitted that, and he knows it's his job to put that right. So why can't the likes of KK, beer and I also share an opinion that he is failing in some areas of the job. It does not mean I support him any less than the blind optimists, nor does it mean I am calling for his head.

Onwards and upwards! tup:

[beerbantam]

This is football, guys. We are all entitled to have our opinions and we will often disagree with the tactics, personnel, result, substitutions etc. That is the nature of the beast, just that nowadays we do it online as opposed to on the terraces or in the pub afterwards!

There are very very few dissentors on here in terms of being opposed to McCall, but there are many who will take a realistic approach. That makes them no less of a supporter, especially the likes of beer and KK, their dedication to City is unquestionable.

I can sum this up in the Barry Conlon Experience. Not long since, this guy was jeered and mocked by the vast majority of the crowd, and only a small minority were trying to show blind faith in his workrate and commitment to the cause. He shocked the boo boys with his attitude and he has looked a far better option in achieving a positive result arguably than Thorne, Boulding or any of the fringe strikers. He has kept going, probably done enough to earn a new contract and is scoring key goals. Suddenly we are all supportive of him and recognise that irrespective of his abilities as a footballer he is a useful weapon in getting results at this level. That doesn't mean I can't still have an opinion that he is not in my eyes good enough for what we are aspiring to be. I will support the guy but I should also be allowed to criticise him. Likewise McCall. I worship the ground the guy walks on, but I reserve the right to call into question his ability as a Manager as well as his decisions or lack of when we do not perform to the best of our ability. Arguably we are fortunate to be in the position we are because we have not had many games where we have performed for the full 90 minutes. McCall himself has admitted that, and he knows it's his job to put that right. So why can't the likes of KK, beer and I also share an opinion that he is failing in some areas of the job. It does not mean I support him any less than the blind optimists, nor does it mean I am calling for his head.

Onwards and upwards & down with the dirty ticket office! tup:

Well said!tup: