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bantampie
24th March 2009, 02:10 PM
Firstly, thankyou all for such a warm welcome yesterday; it was much appreciated.
I wish to kick off my stint here by having a little ‘team game’ to try to narrow down the top 50 pastry-items that we all think we should eat before we die. With at least 2000 different pastry packed products out there on the shelves of local butchers and bakers across the length and breadth of the European Union there are, without doubt, plenty to choose from...
Democracy is evident throughout this site (as it was many years ago in our once great country) so I would first like to ask for a little thought and consideration of what should be included in the top 50 by each poster here providing their own top 10 selection!
I think it is important to mention that the definition of a pastry product is very different to that of a pie. Indeed, most pastry products should not even dream of being in the same class as a pie.
To be included on the pastry product top 50 list the item must simply have a pastry base (however the more pastry the merrier in my very humble opinion!)
So, if you have a spare moment I would be delighted to share with as many people as possible their top 10 pastry product choices...
(Once completed I shall commence initial consultations with both Great Northern and Maney Publishing with a view to allowing them to bid on the rights to publish our very own Bradford City Supporters Pastry Guide (2009) Version 1)
As an example, the French like to eat Horses Cock in Crust – God knows why but they do. So, if enough people mention Horses Cock in their top 10 it will be included on the list of 50 things - and I, and anyone else who cares to partake, shall locate and eat one...
One of my favourites, which I hope could possibly make the top 50 is;
The Cornish Pasty (traditional recipe and traditional construction – A meal in its own right!)
Speak soon
BP
SoggyMoggy
24th March 2009, 02:21 PM
In no particular order:
Scotch Pie (are pies allowed? :confused:)
Danish Pastry
Beef and onion slice
Chicken and Veg pie
Chicken and Broccoli pie
iced bun
apple pie
Minced lamb Samosa
Chicken Tikka Samosa
Beef and Ale pie
Elleb
24th March 2009, 02:28 PM
1.traditional cornish pasty
2.steak n kidney pudding (*pudding not pie)
3.treacle tart
3.sausage roll
4.scotch pie
5.chicken balti pie
6.egg custard
7.butter tart
8.mince pie
9.meat & potato pie
10.pork pie
there you go mr pie man tup:
Jantje
24th March 2009, 02:43 PM
1) Cornish Pasty
2) Pork Pie (must have plenty of jelly inside)
3)Vegetable Somosas
4) Minced Lamb Somosas
5) Steak & Ale pie
6) Chorley Cakes (currant & raisons wrapped in shortcrust pastry!!)
7) Egg Custard
8) Bakewell Tart
9) meat & Potato Pie
10) Sausage Roll
Superfatbantam
24th March 2009, 03:28 PM
1. My Nan's home made meat and taty pie
2. Stand Pie
3. Steak and Ale Pie (Fray Bentos!)
4. Melton mowbray pork pie
5. Corned beef pastie
6. Apple pie
7. Cornish pasty
8. Sausage Roll
9. Chocolate Eclair (choux pastry, does it count?)
10. Pye to 3 decimal places
Tills
24th March 2009, 03:28 PM
1 - Traditional cornish with a half savoury/half sweet filling. Very difficult to locate these days.
2 - Beef wellington - Preferably a whole one to myself.
3 - Greggs Iced Minced pie, adorned with small plastic sprigg of holly.
4 - Award winning pork pie from Weegmans (spelling) of Otley.
5 - Strawberry flan, with rich short crust pastry
6 - Beef and Stilton pie from the Pie company of York
7 - Steak and Ale pie from "Todd's of Bingley" or from "Dave the man to feed you well" of Crossflatts.
8 - Greggs Breakfast slice
9 - Greggs Sausage and bean pasty (cooled for a few minutes as beans tend to retain their heat longer and have been known to take the skin off the roof of my mouth.
10 - Apple pie. Home made with short crust pastry.
Footnote: I did want to include the MacDonalds apple pie with it's aromatic cinamon, however, on further reflection I would consider this to be wrapped in a batter rather than pastry.
Moral Turpitude
24th March 2009, 03:37 PM
1. Salmon en croute
2. Beef wellington
3. Steak and Kidney Pie
4. Apple Pie
5. Pecan and Maple plait
6. Egg Custard
7. Good Pork Pie
8. Crispy Prawn Wantons (Filo pastry if if not mistaken?)
9. Spring Rolls (as above?)
10. Horses Cock in Crust
BaselBantam
24th March 2009, 03:52 PM
1. Cornish (obvi)
2. Egg Custard
3. Pork Pies from Smiths on Ivegate still warm with jelly running down your chin
4. Those cream bun things with a pastry base and strawberry and fresh cream
5. Bacon and Egg pie (still not sure whether pies are allowed)
6. Jam roly-poly
7. Beef Wellington
8. Vanilla Plunder (Danish Pastry with baked custard and jam)
9. Käseküchli (cheese pie - more like a tart)
10. Sausage Rolls
Kop Kred
24th March 2009, 04:09 PM
Can't say I'm particulary partial to any pastry product... certainly not enough to list a top ten...
I enjoy pork pie and peas but if I were to say what my favoriite flour and water based food items were they would be pizza and crepes...
http://www.televisionheaven.co.uk/mrpastry.jpg Mr Pastry was cool though.
Mallorcabantam
24th March 2009, 05:05 PM
You rotten lot -- Al these great products that us salvating exiles cant get :mad:
In no particular order
Pork pie with lots of Jelly
Rhubarb pie
Sausage roll (soft pastry and enough sausage meat inside to find and eat)
Deep chunky Steak and Kidney pie
Steak and Kidney pudding
Pea pie (Famous and available in Malta)
Pizza (Only home made)
Dumplings (on top of Corned Beef Hash)
Vanilla Slice
Eccles cake
And much much more
Spoonhead
24th March 2009, 10:18 PM
You rotten lot -- Al these great products that us salvating exiles cant get :mad:
Learn to cook them then! ;)
I like pork pies. In L**ds, the lads at work call them Growlers. :eek: Used to be a cracking butchers on Armley Town St but it's gone now.
Worst Cornish Pasty I've ever had was this xmas just gone...in Cornwall! YOU COULDN'T MAKE IT UP.
bantampie
25th March 2009, 08:51 AM
Morning All,
Now I know for sure I have made the right decision joining over here – the number of responses (from a post in a category tucked away at the bottom of the site) has exceeded my expectations. The world of pastry salutes you all.
Before I ask for a more suggestions from additional members of the site I feel it is vital to confirm that Pies will be accepted into the Bradford City Supporters Pastry Guide (2009) Version 1 as they are, without doubt, the leaders in pastry. My initial fear was that a Pastry Guide of Pies would not have the same energy and vibrancy as one that permits the inclusion of all things Pastry so, reluctantly, I made the choice to open the doors to all things puff (and it’s close relations) I haven't been disappointed though...
There are a couple of very interesting dark horse choices on the lists and, in all my years of pastry promotion, there’s one or two to tantalise my taste buds that I have yet to try.
I think it’s interesting to see that more and more people are commenting on the jelly content (both the consistency and texture) within a Pork Pie. I think, even from only knowing you all for a day or so, that we are pretty much in agreement that a local Butcher makes a far more fitting Pork Pie than the Waitrose’ of this world! There’s a campaign for the future here, possibly at the last game of the season this year – who knows. A few tasty flyers distributed amongst the crowd, reminding them to support their local butcher? Anyway, I digress...
I love the way SoggyMoggy goes straight for the jugular; Samosas. The finger-food-from-the-far-east, in my opinion, warrants getting on anyone’s top 20 list! (possibly twice, flavour dependant)
Elleb makes one of the most important notes on the list so far. “Steak and Kidney Pudding” (not pie) One of my absolute all time favourites, made with, of course, Suet pastry as opposed to Puff or Shortcrust. Steamed not baked. Love it...
Now Jantje – where have you been on your travels? Chorley is not a designated tourist destination (to my recent knowledge) so for you to have a soft spot for a Chorley Cake (over the Eccles Cake) is an interesting one. I believe that Chorley Cakes are not as sweet as Eccles Cakes (it must have been four/five years since i’ve had one in truth) and that the local residents of the cotton-picking-central-metropolis that is Chorley are not afraid to actually BUTTER the cake before eating it. A worthy contender! Maybe it will be seen fighting for a place alongside the Sad Cake, popular around the Burnley areas of Lancashire...
Superfatbantam; the éclair does indeed count. It has a pastry base and is mighty fine and tasty! I fancy this one to make the top twenty-five, however it could well get pipped by the apple turnover. I’m getting excited now...
I agree Tills that a McDonalds Apple Pie is open to some dispute – I‘ll drop Mike Faers an e-mail later this morning and see if I can get a definitive response from his people at McDonalds (UK)...
Moral (you evidently have none!) No.10 on your list? Only rolling your pin! Some excellent main course choices here, I would love to see Beef Wellington feature somewhere in the top 10, it’s an awesome dish that just wouldn’t (obviously) be the same without the Pastry! Served with Roast Root Veg it’s a top treat to try!
BaselBantam, i’ll be honest with you - I had to Google ‘Käseküchli’ and even then I couldn’t translate the recipe! It looks (as you describe it) like a flan/tart? Does it contain various flavours of cheese as i’d like to maybe try and bake one at work for a tasting session? With regards Jam Roly Poly – a good call. Possibly one for the top 20 there!
KopKred, people’s tastes are all different. To mention the Pie and Peas combo is contribution in itself and I feel you may end up with a top 10 choice. Where would you get your Pork-Pie from though, that’s the question?
MallorcaBantam, I genuinely feel for you. After six hours asleep i’m awake and craving pastry – to go days, weeks or (god forbid) months without a fix would probably be the end of me. Did McDonalds not once do a Pea Pie? I’ve had Pea Pie once before (and it was indeed in Malta!) and if I recall correctly it was served hot with Potatoes and a thick stock gravy. Quite tasty too if I remember rightly!
I’ve heard this one many times Spoonhead. The Cornish people have become far too complacent and have rested on their Ginsters laurels for far too long now...
Please - if there's anyone else out there with a top 10 - let's have it!
The Bradford City Supporters Pastry Guide (2009) Version 1 needs your opinion.
Mallorcabantam
25th March 2009, 09:07 AM
Chorley is not a designated tourist destination (to my recent knowledge) so for you to have a soft spot for a Chorley Cake (over the Eccles Cake) is an interesting one. I believe that Chorley Cakes are not as sweet as Eccles Cakes (it must have been four/five years since i’ve had one in truth) and that the local residents of the cotton-picking-central-metropolis that is Chorley are not afraid to actually BUTTER the cake before eating it. A worthy contender! Maybe it will be seen fighting for a place alongside the Sad Cake, popular around the Burnley areas of Lancashire...
Having lived in Chorley for many years -- I can say that I am a Chorley Cake expert eater -- It is much sweeter than the delicious Eccles cake and is made from flaky pastry with a sweet sugar coating over the top. It is the Eccles Cake that is often spread with butter (I prefer mine without) I have never seen butter on a Chorley cake -- I could eat either right now with a nice cup of coffee -- Mmm that reminds me -- we have a packet of Chorley cakes in the deep freeze waiting for a rainy day -- Damm its sunny again out there :rolleyes:
Kop Kred
25th March 2009, 09:11 AM
KopKred, people’s tastes are all different. To mention the Pie and Peas combo is contribution in itself and I feel you may end up with a top 10 choice. Where would you get your Pork-Pie from though, that’s the question?
'Summers' in Clayton.. lovely growlers!
Jantje
25th March 2009, 09:34 AM
As opposed to Mally, our family tradition stretching back at least 3 generations to my knowledge was to cover the top of the Chorley Cake with a thick layer of best butter and as kids we used to fight over the last one in the packet. I seem to remember 5 in a packet and only 4 of us!!!
Jantje
25th March 2009, 09:38 AM
Can i also add as a dark horse not on my list. Similar to a Vanilla slice but with a tantalising thinly spead layer of jam on the pastry. The Bavarian Slice. The confectioners down Ivegate used to make the best and were a special treat with the thick vanilla cream but the jam just added to the flavour and combined with the iced topping was a delight!!!
Mallorcabantam
25th March 2009, 09:51 AM
Can i also add as a dark horse not on my list. Similar to a Vanilla slice but with a tantalising thinly spead layer of jam on the pastry. The Bavarian Slice. The confectioners down Ivegate used to make the best and were a special treat with the thick vanilla cream but the jam just added to the flavour and combined with the iced topping was a delight!!!
Forgot that one -- what a cracker tup:
Portadown Loyal
25th March 2009, 10:04 AM
You rotten lot -- Al these great products that us salvating exiles cant get :mad:
get yersen over to magaluf then ;)
Mallorcabantam
25th March 2009, 10:24 AM
get yersen over to magaluf then ;)
Someone sees you with a pie in yer hand -- you may get mugged :rolleyes:
Good British baker there though -- he was on “PASSPORT TO THE SUN”
http://www.a2zmallorca.com/detail/3526.htm
tup:
Portadown Loyal
25th March 2009, 10:36 AM
HaHa think I may of watched that one actually, jump:jump:
BaselBantam
25th March 2009, 01:37 PM
BaselBantam, i’ll be honest with you - I had to Google ‘Käseküchli’ and even then I couldn’t translate the recipe! It looks (as you describe it) like a flan/tart? Does it contain various flavours of cheese as i’d like to maybe try and bake one at work for a tasting session? With regards Jam Roly Poly – a good call. Possibly one for the top 20 there!I'd say more of a tart. Perfect size is maybe 4-5 inches diameter and an inch deep. If it was as large as a flan then it would be a Käsewähe.
The filling is egg, milk, cream and cheese. I suppose it's a bit like a firm quiche - but eaten by men.
If you want the exact Swiss pronunciation of Käseküchli then imagine a cat with a furball....
Parrot
25th March 2009, 06:51 PM
As opposed to Mally, our family tradition stretching back at least 3 generations to my knowledge was to cover the top of the Chorley Cake with a thick layer of best butter and as kids we used to fight over the last one in the packet. I seem to remember 5 in a packet and only 4 of us!!!
Going by your size JS you must have won the last cake quite a lot? :D
Mallorcabantam
25th March 2009, 08:25 PM
As opposed to Mally, our family tradition stretching back at least 3 generations to my knowledge was to cover the top of the Chorley Cake with a thick layer of best butter and as kids we used to fight over the last one in the packet. I seem to remember 5 in a packet and only 4 of us!!!
Sorry -- Our lass, who is a Lancashire lass (SORRY AGAIN) -- says folks do put butter on Chorley cakes
:o
Parrot
25th March 2009, 10:33 PM
Ya cant beat Spampie IMO tup:
Spoonhead
25th March 2009, 10:42 PM
Ya cant beat Spampie IMO tup:
Never had one but I'd give it a go. I like a bit of spam.
I can't be doing with really thick, dry pastry though. I hate pies like that. All crust and no filling.
Jantje
26th March 2009, 07:21 AM
Going by your size JS you must have won the last cake quite a lot? :D
roflmao: :p:p
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